Posted by Mat on 11/6/2005, 12:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Silat competition/exhibition" --Previous Message--
silat lincah UK was recognised, but not being part of IPSI means you do not qualify you for membership of Persilat.being a nephew of someone important helps of course it would be nice to see a competition with all the malay pesilat involved possibly doing demos and workshops would be an idea initially too. Hi sulaiman. indeed how can the 2 largest malaysian styles be excluded. there has been attempts to discredit both groups to justify their exclusion. these are transparent petty and childish and do not serve silat.
i'd be interested to see what comes of this, but plan it well in advance- the malay idea of planning it a week in advance wont help here!!!!!
: : asalaamualaykum awang,
: ha - yes you are right, is very easy to get
: the two reversed !Specialy when you are
: typing fast.Sorry everyone !
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: Still I stand by the essence of my comment.
: In my opinion the olahraga rules as they are
: at the moment need some serious revision if
: they are to represent silat well in the
: wider martial arts world.
: I feel they do not give participants an
: opportunity to express their silat.
:
: Also my comments about the PSF UK stand ,
: they have used their position as official
: PERSILAT representative in the UK to exclude
: certain well known teachers and schools from
: participating in the PERSILAT organisation
: and in National & International events ,
: where they should have been represented.
:
: Silat Gayong and Silat Lincah are a case in
: point - how can the 2 largest malay
: perguruan ( in the UK as well as Malaysia
: )not be represented in the UK Persilat
: organisation ?
:
: This is an issue which in my opinion should
: be looked at by Persilat itself.
:
: This type of political manouveruing to
: promote some schools and exclude others ,
: with no clear guidelines or consesequences ,
: coupled with the combative weakness of the
: olahragea rules has given the PERSILAT
: organisation something of a bad reputation
: amongst the UK silat community.
:
: Hopefully the situation can be addressed and
: resolved , for the benefit of everyone - but
: the motivation must come from inside
: PERSILAT as well as from outside
: Peace
: sulaiman
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: --Previous Message--
: Sulaiman,
: PSSGM is founder of PESAKA who is founder
: member of PERSILAT. You also confuse
: PERSILAT with pesilat. pesilat is one who do
: silat.
: I know a lot of PERSILAT member who do not
: take part in the sport competition side of
: silat.
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: --Previous Message--
: Hi Paul,
: Provisionally Gayong Spain would be
: interested in something like this .
: It would all depend on how and why it was
: organised.
: If it was a genuine effort to promote Silat
: as an art, to raise the profile of silat
: amongst the martial arts community and to
: foster a spirit of cameraderie, friendly
: competition and respect between the
: different silat aliran , then I am sure
: people would get involved.
:
: In my opinion, to not repeat the pathetic
: spectacle that usually passes for silat
: competitions , you will have to seriously
: change the IPSI rules, especially when it
: comes to the olahraga.
: We definitely are not interested in taking
: part in a second rate kickboxing bout.
: To not repeat the mistakes made by silat
: organizations previously you would have to
: get all the Gurus of the interested
: Perguruans to agree a set of rules that
: protected the participants , but at the same
: time allowed them to do silat!
: I would love to see an event of this kind in
: the UK, which seems to have undergone a
: silat renaissance in the last few years ,
: and can now boast a good number of
: traditional and modern silat styles and a
: quantity of talented persilat.
:
: Shame the official Pesilat/IPSI body of the
: PSF UK has missed out on all this , and has
: managed to restrict the membership of its
: organisation to the 2 schools of its
: president and vice president.
: Would be good to see something that
: represented the traditional malay culture of
: respect and modesty rather than just
: representing the modern political culture of
: nepotism and beaurocracy !
: peace
: sulaiman
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