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Posted by zippetydude on August 1, 2012, 9:27:55, in reply to "Re: Wow!"
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That would be great, maybe do a few miles together as well. Thanks,
z
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: When/If you do, post your itinerary.
: I may decide to show up somewhere on
: your route to cheer you on (or drop
: supplies?)!
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: Could be fun! I'll post before I go.
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: z
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: Sounds like an epic adventure! If
: you're looking for partners in
: crime, I might be interested.
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: Thanks, that's an amazing response.
: It has more elevation gain than I
: had expected, and I didn't really
: even have a reasonable estimate of
: the mileage.
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: I had thought about including Baldy
: as well but I'm thinking it would
: more than double the mileage, and
: that would start to turn into a very
: long trip.
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: Thanks again for your help. I'm
: thinking of giving it a go some time
: in October before the first snows
: but after the summer heat has
: passed. If I have a chance to do it
: I'll post pics.
:
: z
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: Miles Elev Up Down Trail
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: 1.4 1070 1337 267 Angelus Oaks to
: Wild Bndry
: 2.7 1296 1479 183 Wild Bdy to Johns
: Meadow Trl Jct
: 11.7 3072 4828 1757 JM Trl Jct to
: SanG Peak Jct
: 0.4 137 183 46 San Gorgonio up
: 0.4 -137 46 183 San Gorgonio down
: 3.8 -1519 402 1921 Sky High Trl
: 5.6 -1735 734 2469 Fish Crk Trl
: 0.4 93 114 21 Fish Crk Rd
: 31.0 -6272 4382 10654 PCT Mission
: Crk to Snow Creek
: 19.5 7235 10613 3378 PCT Snow Creek
: to Deer Springs
: 2.4 1627 1766 139 Deer Springs Trl
: to SanJ Pk Jct
: 0.2 169 171 2 San Jacinto Peak up
: 0.2 -169 2 171 San Jacinto Peak down
: 0.9 -583 37 620 Miller Traverse
: 0.7 -279 29 307 Above Wellman Divide
: 0.9 -655 11 667 Wellman Divide to
: Round Valley
: 0.3 -94 7 101 Round Valley
: 1.3 -535 88 623 Round Valley to Long
: Valley
: 0.2 -46 16 63 Long Valley
: 0.2 148 158 9 Long Valley to Tram
: Station
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: Totals, Angelus Oaks to Upper Tram
: Station:
: 84.2 miles
: 2823 feet net gain in elevation
: 26403 feet climbing
: 23461 feet descending
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: All the above data was from the San
: Bernardino National Forest's
: official Google Earth kmz file:
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: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5213004.kmz
: This amazing file contains
: information on nearly every trail,
: road, and campground in the San
: Bernardino National Forest. Whoever
: put it together deserves a raise!
: It's that good.
:
: Since the amount of data in that
: file is huge, only selected .kmz
: file data was exported from Google
: Earth into .kml format in several
: batches. The resultant .kml files
: were then converted into .gpx format
: using the GPSBabel freeware. The
: PCT trail and Fish Creek Road .gpx
: data was cropped/edited using the
: GPXeditor freeware program. The
: resultant .gpx data files were
: painstakingly imported, sorted, and
: plotted using the Delorme Topo 7
: mapping software, which gives
: elevation profiles of gps tracks.
: The results from those eighteen gps
: tracks are shown, above. The two
: spur trails up each of the major
: peaks were counted in each
: direction.
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: NOTE that gps software often
: overstates both mileages and
: elevation gained, so take this data
: with a grain of salt.
:
: Then go out and hike it!
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:
: But what about adding Mount Baldy to
: the mix? For calculating the
: Trifecta/Triple Crown on foot, if
: someone wants to add all the
: mileages from Manker Flat, up Mt.
: Baldy, over to the PCT, and then
: find a path from the PCT near Big
: Bear Lake to Angelus Oaks and the
: San Bernardino Peak Trailhead (I
: couldn't find a decent set of
: connecting trails - maybe Hikin' Jim
: would know), be my guest. I've done
: enough! A trip like that would
: be the Southern California version
: of the JMT. We could call it the
: ZDT (ZippetyDude Trail), or the HJT
: (Hikin' Jim Trail), or the TCT
: (Triple Crown Trail).
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: Maybe I'll do an elevation profile
: next. I don't have any software for
: that, so anyone who wants to lend a
: hand here, feel free.
:
: HJ
: Adventures in Stoving
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: Hi Jim. Thanks for the map. As far
: as the number of days, that will
: depend on the number of miles...
:
: The elevation gain seems like it
: will be less than 20k. Figure about
: 5500 from AO to San G Peak, maybe a
: little more with the ups and downs
: on the ridge. It's almost all down
: on the PCT until I turn right to go
: up and out of Mission Creek. It
: climbs around 200 there, then
: another 100 or so getting up and
: over another small ridge, then drops
: into the Whitewater drainage. It
: will gain maybe another 500 going up
: over the pass to get to Cottonwood,
: then something around 10000 getting
: up and over San J. I'm trying to
: figure the distance and incline so I
: can plot it out backwards and see
: what kind of time frame will be the
: most fun. Thanks for your help.
:
: z
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: Tentative map link
: I don't even want to think about the
: elevation gain. Yipes!
:
: And in how many days did you plan
: to do this in? It seems like it
: would be long and grueling event
: even with an overnight stay
: somewhere around the half way point.
: If this is intended to be a one-day
: event, well, hope you didn't plan on
: any zzz's.
:
: HJ
: Adventures in Stoving
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: I've tried calculating a route from
: San Bernardino Peak trailhead up to
: San B Peak, across the ridge and
: over to San G, down through Mission
: Springs to the PCT, then the PCT
: across through Whitewater,
: Cottonwood trailhead and Snow Creek,
: then turning left on the Marion
: Mountain trail to the saddle, taking
: the spur up to the top of San J, and
: then the trail on down to the tram.
: My mapping software is primitive and
: when I try to map it out it just
: won't do it. You pop up maps all
: the time - can you give me a guess
: as to how far that would be? Seems
: like it would make for an epic
: journey.
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