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Posted by Ed on October 23, 2009, 17:48:05, in reply to "Re: Include Ursack!"
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I've been in both camps... If you're camping on the summit and your biggest fear are the golden mantle squirrel...do the Ursack. If, however, you're down below in bear country, don't fool yourself, as the Ursack...well, you might as well keep smelly things in a Stater Bros. bag. They may not get to your food, but everything inside will be un-eatabe...all smashed together. The choice is yours, but, I've been there. A canister is the only way to go...if you want to eat. Ed
--Previous Message--
: All that I am saying is that ursacks
: have been proven to be nearly or
: just as effective as a bear
: cannister, and I believe the the
: choice of whether or not my food
: gets crushed should be up to me, not
: the USFS because if Ipack my stuff
: in a smoosh-proof manner, then I
: (technicly) should be able to go
: without the Al. liner, wich saves a
: considerable amount as far as weight
: is concerned.
:
: Just my thoughts
:
: Jace Mullen
:
: --Previous Message--
: I wouldn't say they aren't good
: being
: I have one also. The problem lies
: when or if a bear does check it out.
: That all or most of your food will
: be smashed. That the coffee could be
: mixed with your oat meal and
: sugar... there have been a few a few
: people that have runins with bears
: and had this problem. I myself feel
: beter knowing that my coffee will be
: in the same pack that I put it in...
: the weight is not that much
: different. 1lb. if you get the BV450
: 2Lbs 1 oz. the ursack weight 8ozs
: and with the aluminmum insert its
: about 1lb+
: So there isn't that much difference.
: I would expect that this will be
: something like what we have in the
: sierra.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I agree! The ursack is really just
: as
: good from what ive seen, and saves
: me about a pound (ish?) off of
: baseweight! PLEASE!
:
: -Jace
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hopefully, the bear container
: requirements will include the use of
: Ursacks. Ursacks are lighter and
: pack better than a conventional
: barrel strapped to your back.
: Ursacks are not permitted in parts
: of the Sierra due to overly strict
: regulation IMHO. I am much more
: likely to carry an Ursack than a big
: uncomfortable "can".
:
: --Previous Message--
: The Bear Vault canisters work very
: well. The BV450 Solo runs 69.95 and
: the BV500 runs 79.95. The BV450 Solo
: weighs 2lbs 1oz has a 4 day capacity
: and the BV500 weights 2lbs 9oz has a
: 7 day capacity.
: http://bearvault.com/
:
: --Previous Message--
: What is the biggest? The smallest?
: How much do you need to spend??
:
: --Previous Message--
: From Halfway Camp CLOSURE thread
: below.
: Seems like most everyone here is in
: favor of a bear canister requirement
: for the SGW. The requirement is
: currently being discussed by local
: Forest Service officials. However,
: the FS system is usually reluctant
: to impose additional requirements
: and restrictions on the public
: without a very strong need and a
: voiced desire by the public. We all
: know there would be a few who
: complain about having to buy or rent
: a canister.
: And instituting such a requirement
: involves a considerable amount of
: time, red tape, and many levels of
: review and approval. Also, FS
: workload is overflowing and
: priorities have to be set. We can
: help them be aware of the public
: desire and set those priorities by
: simply sending a short polite note
: about our desire for a bear canister
: requirement, letter or post card, to
: Forest Supervisor's Office,
: 602 South Tippecanoe Avenue,
: San Bernardino, CA 92408. Mine is on
: it's way.
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