Classification in Ohio

Posted by Ryan Miller on April 16, 2012, 10:53 am
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I am wondering what others think about the following team's resume: http://www.usssa.com/sports/Team3.asp?TeamID=1764154 Avg runs per game - 22 2-0 vs A team 1-0 vs B team 2011 Great Lakes C National Champs 2011 WSL Midwest World Champs 2010 World Tournament 9th It seems its the same guys year after year based on their roster. So my question is what is the criteria in Ohio for playing C. Their games thus far this year are really not even competitive. Thoughts?

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Well... on April 16, 2012, 11:54 am, in reply to "Classification in Ohio "
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They are going to have a pretty good opponent this weekend in the Dual event right out of the gate... Let's see how that goes and then we can revisit it...

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by 1-2 at C world on April 16, 2012, 12:45 pm, in reply to "Classification in Ohio "
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Their classification is 1-2 at C world in 2011. Also already beaten 4 times by C teams in the first 2 tournaments

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Streaky on April 16, 2012, 2:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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From what I can tell with them, they are streaky. Some tough losses last year but has the talent to win big games. There are ALOT of teams like that throughout the country. Remember, softball isn't based on your teams potential, but rather, what you've actually done. Its not a golfers handicap. With that said, I would like to ask where are those 4 losses against 'C' teams coming from.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by 1-2 at C world on April 16, 2012, 2:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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Twice to Sportsco (another Cincinnati C team). 1 to Miller Builders (northern Ohio C team). 1 to Cooper (Dayton Ohio C team).

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Streaky on April 16, 2012, 2:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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WSL? NSA? I believe he was curious as to their Utrip record and classification. I know...tomato/tomado but just clarifying the difference.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by 1-2 at C world on April 16, 2012, 2:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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2 loses WSL, 2 loses utrip

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Posted by ohio player on April 16, 2012, 2:59 pm, in reply to "Classification in Ohio "
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Also note these last two tournamnets were part of a tri-state conference where you hit zn's and get 4 hr's so runs are easier to come by. The weather was cool which helped also. Their infield defense and pitching has been the big difference in many of their games. They are where they belong.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Cincy Player on April 16, 2012, 3:53 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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Total disagree. This team should be B and everyone knows it. Stevens, Bellamy, Staton, Feichtner, Gardner and Cosgrove have been together forever. This is whats wrong with softball. We use to say Michigan was the king of sandbagging and now we are no better

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Wrong on April 16, 2012, 4:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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I am from Cincy and they dont have one guy on there team that could play on a true B team. Their little skinny coach is a joke too.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Skeeter on April 17, 2012, 12:34 am, in reply to "Classification in Ohio "

PRI is off to a very hot start in the Cincinnati area. Now granted we play a big bash for cash tournament in march and have founded a new local tri state conference division. This allows blitz, Columbus pipe, 3rd street financial, and pri all national conference teams to play close to home on some weekends. They play other national c and b teams. Sportsco (9th Usssa c 2011), EAP, still has birkofer and some very good talent. And our d level is very good. However those rules for those tristate conference tournaments, full Usssa bat testing, bats in the bucket, ZN's 4 homeruns. Locally hopefully we are preparing for the national circuit. Good luck to every one in Kissimmee this weekend.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Jradich on April 17, 2012, 1:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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In Ohio and the surrounding areas it truly doesn't matter what they classify until worlds, due to the TSC. How can you say that there isn't a guy on this team that couldn't play B? They are a good team with great chemistry. Sure sometimes they are misunderstood with their words, but that's how they stay in every game. They stay loud and have high energy. Just because they don't look the part of your typical MAJOR/upper player doesn't mean these guys can't play up. All kinds of talent on these area teams and imagine thats true a crossed the country. Size isn't everything especially with ZN's. Difference between B and C is very small and usually comes down to consistency. Look at their run totals, seem pretty consistent to me. Do you

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by DW on April 17, 2012, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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Great post. I agree, the difference between 'B' and 'C' is self esteem.

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by Are You Kidding on April 17, 2012, 8:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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Are you kidding? There is no way this is a C team!! Where in the rules does it say you cannot be bumped for not winning a world? Obviously this team can compete in the B and A level. If you can beat two A teams why are you playing C's? This is just stupid the run difference should be enough. Is there a rule that says you have to win before you're bumped? So does that mean every team has to be able to win the world or else they play down? This team CAN compete at the B and A level. Enough said - bump please!

Re: Classification in Ohio

Posted by JJ on April 19, 2012, 4:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Classification in Ohio "
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That "little skinny coach" is no longer with them. They got rid of him and Mike Foulks is now coaching.