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Posted by Doug Crumlich
on December 26, 2011, 3:10 pm, in reply to "Re: You are correct Doug! Kinda!"
What would be interesting is the whole new group of racers that would now be able to go red, thus giving the face away tothe faster car.
This is a aspect that today they do not worry about.
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: Hey Crummy.
:
: Is it possible to have a split tree
: 500/400? Still have not had a definate
: answer. That would be the best fix...
:
: --Previous Message--
: Ron,
:
: Good question and there have been some good
: observations today.
:
: In reality, the .500 tree in Mean does not
: affect me at all, until we build our new car
: for Rick. But, if we are talking just 10.60
: cars, isn't the .400 the same for all racers
: in that category equally? They have about
: the same power and weight? So no advantage
: and why change it?
:
: What I do care about is messing with the
: index rules. I found that I love index
: racing because, as Hanko put it, you are
: side by side.
:
: I see the beef is Open Comp where you Choose
: to run against faster cars. I really wasn't
: an issue until the fast cars got involved
: the last two years. A change in some of the
: index rules will eventually lead to a change
: in Open Rules.
:
: It appears there is a fix BUT there is not
: enough money or time to add a class, so the
: combining of classes is spoken about.
:
: 9.60 doesn't want to run against 7.60/8.60
: 10.60 doesn't want to run against 9.60
: 11.60 doesn't want to run against 10.60
:
: So as you can see, the slower cars don't
: want to run against faster cars. This is
: the beauty of our current open structure,
: You Don't have to.
:
: In a perfect world you could.
: Run .500 tree in 10.60
: Run .400 tree in 9.60
: Run .400 tree in 8.60/7.60
:
: Run .500 in an open category
: Run .400 in an open category
:
: Problem is, this adds a purse and another
: class to the run schedule. Not what Mel
: needs right now.
:
: So we have two choices as I see it.
: 1. Change the tree in some classes and make
: then two index classes and split open into
: two classes
: 2. Change Mean and Musang to .500 and leave
: Open Comp at .400 tree.
: 2. Leave the system alone and wait until the
: sound issues are fixed and then the cars
: will return.
:
: So not calling anyone out. Calm post that
: seems to sum up what I have read the last
: three days. Mel will do what he needs to do
: and we will figure it out. I am prepared to
: support him either way as should we all.
:
: Mel, appreciate you keeping the show going
: in 2011 even though your fast cars could not
: compete at Fontana.
:
: Crummy
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: With the muffler rule there will be cars not
: showing, however with some tweeking of the
: classes there definitely will be more cars
: running MUTIPLE classes. Doug, I don't
: know if I asked you this but why do you care
: if Mean Street goes to a .500 tree. More
: than half of the cars in Mean need to go
: deep and it would eliminate deep staging and
: I know Hanks racing skills pretty good and
: he would benefit from the .500 tree more
: than me, and you can't dispute that, I know.
: I've taught Hank many things about staging
: and it's importance in Drag racing, ask Him.
: He's a friend and I wouldn't steer him
: wrong.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Hamko,
:
: You are correct, until the muffler rule
: changes, we will have lower car counts. For
: me, the Mufflers will stay on as I don't see
: a difference with the borla's.
:
: Merry xmas.
:
: --Previous Message--
: RONNIE: JUST VOICING MY OPINION LIKE EVERY
: ONE
: ELSE. FOR YOUR INFORMATION I HAVE RACED .500
: TREE BEFORE AND MY LIGHTS ON A .500 TREE ARE
: BETTER THAN ON A .400 TREE . I JUST PREFER A
: .400 TREE AND HEADS UP . IF MUFFLER RULE
: DOESN'T CHANGE , WON'T BE AT TOO MANY
: FONTANA RACES . CAR AS IS WON'T RUN WITH
: MUFFLERS AND I AM NOT ABOUT TO SPEND TWO
: GRAND TO SWITCH EXHAUST SYSTEMS. ALTERNATIVE
: IS O/C AND S/M WITH A 10;80 DIAL IN.
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: Do you really think the muffler rule is
: going to change, come on Hank! And Who's
: going to pay the prize money for the extra
: class/classes. I didn't hear you step in
: and say you would sponsor one of them! It's
: not about YOU Hank and it's not about what
: YOU think is best. YOU need to think of the
: overall program and what can make the
: Association better across the board. Hank,
: you don't even understand the whole staging
: process. On the .500 tree you can go as
: shallow as possible, still cut killer lights
: and probably gain a tenth or so in ET. YOU
: will NOT go double 0's in Fontana with your
: car shallow staging, guaranteed.
: --Previous Message--
: Amen!!! My feelings also. If you want to
: increase car count , eliminate muffler rule
: at Fontana . That will bring back a few cars
: and create another new class-11:60/12:60
: with a .500 tree. If muffler rule stays in ,
: I probably won't run but one or two races at
: Fontana as mufflers absolutely kill my motor
: unless I go to the 11:60 class. PS How have
: been Brian?
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: Just to let those who dont know and to
: remind those who do know.......10.60 Index
: class came straight from the Nostalgic D/Gas
: class.
: It was racers who raced the D/Gas class that
: asked Mel to put the Index together.
: The whole idea is just simple, its heads up!
: Yes some of you want to argue its not but
: its the only type of Heads Up that isn't
: driven by the deepest pockets. It runs off a
: .400 Pro tree and thats was it. I have read
: this whole post and for the life of me I
: cant figure out why some want to make it a
: .500 tree???
: Whats wrong with the 10.60 Index Class??
: If there is nothing wrong with it why change
: it??
: Is there a problem with some of the other
: Index Classes? Not enough car count? Then
: maybe they dont need to run.
: I guess my thought is why fix some thing
: that isn't broke. The Gas Classes are the
: most highly supported classes in Nostalgic
: racing and as from what I have seen the same
: in PSCA.
: I guess we all have to remember you cant be
: all to everyone!
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Doug Crumlich
Cutting Edge Motorsports.
2008 Super Street Champ
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