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Posted by 777J
on December 16, 2011, 8:22 am, in reply to "Re: The intent of the no electronics policy!"
Message modified by user 777J December 16, 2011, 8:33 am
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--Previous Message--
: I understand your point, but if the largest
: sanctioning body feels that it is not a
: competitive advantage, then why us. We do
: not want to allienate the newer cars from
: running with us.
:
: As for cost, That goes up as the car goes
: faster and there are advantages of a faster
: car. Throttle stops and delay boxes are way
: cheap compaired to that. I know, I run both
: Super Gas/Comp and Non Elect with PSCA.
:
: To disagree with your point and look at it
: another way, there are classes in the
: Heritage series for people that do not like
: today's technology, NOT PSCA. PSCA has some
: of the most technological cars in Drag
: Racing. Prostreet is just crazy with
: electronics, they even use traction control.
: So I would say, PSCA uses more of todays
: technology than NHRA does.
:
: Just another point of view from a racer with
: Today's fuel delivery system. (EFI) Although
: I am still bumbling wit it.
:
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: --Previous Message--
: Doug, It still goes back to the intent of
: the
: "No electronics" policy. I think
: these classes were designed to keep it
: simple and as inexpensive as possible. It
: sounds like (but I'm not sure) it's a way to
: get an advantage over others in the classes.
: Let's try to keep the playing field AS EVEN
: AS POSSIBLE and not have to spend a lot of
: money doing it. Why not keep everything
: manual. They have classes for all the new
: electronic technologies, Super Gas, Super
: Comp etc. IMO we should try and keep it
: simple and not have to install some new
: gizmo every year to stay competitive. Just
: because NHRA allows it doesn't mean the PSCA
: has to. Again, I will continue to race no
: matter what happens but not allowing would
: be the fairest to all concerned. No real
: need to go backward though I think the
: Christmas Tree is fair to all. Just my .02
: cents.
:
: --Previous Message--
: So what george is saying is that nhra allows
: throttle by wire in there three most
: prevelant classes that do no allow
: electronic bracket racing aids.
:
: If this is true, why would psca have an
: issue with it.
: why ban new technology? This isnt good guys
: where they live in the dark ages. May as
: well go to flagged starters.
:
: --Previous Message--
: This has been an interesting situation in
: NHRA
: since about 2005. The NHRA rules in the
: General Admin. Section of the rulebook
: forbid any kind of a drive-by-wire throttle
: system, unless it's stated differently under
: the Class Rules. Drive-by-wire IS permitted
: in some NHRA clases, such as Stock and Super
: Stock and probably some (or all) Comp
: Eliminator classes. Of course, none of
: those classes tecnically run at PSCA events.
: The only two areas in the NHRA rulebook
: that apply to PSCA events are the ET Section
: (Section 4A) and the Advanced ET Section
: (Section 4B). Neither of those sections
: addresses anything to do with "throttle
: control" so technically, the rules in
: the General Admin Section apply. No
: drive-by-wire permitted. HOWEVER, once NHRA
: was notified in 2005 (by me) that since
: almost every new car built after 2005 was
: equipped with drive-by-wire throttle
: systems, a "waiver" was approved
: and issued, stating that drive-by-wire IS
: permitted at NHRA facilities, provided that
: the OEM computer was used. Most aftermarket
: engine management systems (FAST, Big Stuff,
: etc.) will NOT run a drive-by-wire throttle
: body system and since aftermarket computers
: ARE legal in Stock and Super Stock classes,
: the throttle body drive-by-wire systems may
: be replaced with throttle bodies utalizing
: mechanical linkage. We (Accufab)
: manufacture both types for Ford Racing.
: Plenty of confusion all around, however
: since drive-by-wire systems ARE permitted at
: NHRA facilities, they should be legal in
: PSCA classes provided that PSCA does not
: object to their use.
:
: The old phrase "step on the gas"
: is apperenlty as out of date as
: "blowing your horn" I guess.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Ron
:
: Aren't many of the newer cars throttle by
: wire? I am sure they have raced in open
: before?
:
: --Previous Message--
: I am not sure of the "Letter of the
: rule" but I'm pretty sure I know what
: the "Spirit of the Rule is". The
: classes were designed to have the racers
: slow their cars down (or speed them up)
: manually. This could be done by adding or
: removing weight. Taking timing out or add
: timing manually. Taking throttle out of the
: car by linkage adjustment or some type of
: restrictor plate all being done manually.
: They are considered "NON
: ELECTRONIC" classes. If a product
: isn't specifically listed as not allowed
: doesn't necessarily make it OK! IMO! What
: little I do know about "throttle by
: wire" is that adjustments are made
: electronically. I think the term "No
: electronics" speaks for itself. I
: don't think anyone is using it now, but I'm
: not sure! And by no means take my word on
: it, I am speaking only to the intent of the
: rule! I would call Mel to get the
: "Letter of the Rule"! Looking
: forward to seeing you in the lanes!
:
: --Previous Message--
: Is throttle by wire allowed in the Psca
: index
: and open classes? I am new to the area this
: November and would like to run Psca next
: year.
:
: Thanks in advance
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