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Re: Time for a productive change in L/S
Posted by LS89RACER on July 2, 2009, 9:31 pm, in reply to "Time for a productive change in L/S"
Mel needs to look at WCHR limited 10.5 class.
After 3 race's there were 10 car running that class. There were big block cars and small block cars and they are all competitive. They run on a MUCH BETTER TIRE than the ET street. If there were a class close to these rules some of the old true street guys could run if they were not competitive in Wild street. The class also needs a better pay out $550.00 wont attract many people to come out or bulid a car. Just my two cents.

--Previous Message--
: Damon,
: First off it's good that you listed the
: entire Limited field for comment, I only
: hope you didn't get a cramp in your hand
: listing all 4 of us. The way I see it if it
: gets you to the track I'll loan you a 4500
: to put on top of whatever motor you will be
: using. I personally think at this point Mel
: should allow big blocks as well (with
: restrictions of course) Maybe have them run
: a #4 Nitrous line and a limited cubic inch
: rule. I think right now the nitrous cars are
: at a disadvantage by the carburation limit
: we have compared to the unrestricted EFI
: 80mm intercooled turbo rule. I would like to
: see that changed as well but was shot down
: on that. The way I see it, The rule changes
: that have been thrown at us yearly have most
: certainly taken a class that had multiple
: cars, to a class that will be extinct if
: someone doesnt start listening to some of
: the suggestions and not just throw the new
: rules out there. The old rules 5 years ago
: were cool as hell for the class and we sure
: better not ever see them again, as we lost
: allot of money changing everything. I'm all
: for the new rules when they work. However if
: you look, the rule changes have steadily
: dropped cars from the class. Why would you
: build a $100,000.00 car for a $550.00 payout
: with limited contingency? and when you open
: the door for the new cars to come in they
: don't show up anyway and it's still the same
: 3 guys. Only now they know at any given
: moment if they don't spend $15,000.00 to
: $20,000.00 on a DFI Turbo or supercharger
: laptop in the lanes setup we could get our
: a$$ handed to us at any given race with us
: flowing 800cfm and them flowing 1500cfm or
: so with 160lb injectors? The class has
: gotten away from the basics and that has
: killed it in my opinion. Understand before
: we all start typing that I'm not b###hing
: just stating facts, and I'll race no matter
: what the rules are, because that's what I
: love to do. And yes don't worry I'm sure I
: will build a motec turbocharged 80mm
: intercooled 415" Dutweiller tuned at
: the starting line car to go have fun with in
: Limited Street because that seems fair to me
: "Right" Plus on my racing budget I
: can afford to do it. How about everyone
: else? It's no fun racing with yourself or
: even the same 2 or 3 guys. So we need to
: make some kind of change and maybe it's time
: for the racers to be heard and listened to.
:
: Gary Brandt L/S-2
: --Previous Message--
: I talked to Robert and he wanted me to check
: with you guys to see if you were willing to
: change the rule for the carb size for the
: naturally aspirated combos and allow any
: size 4150 or even just a 950carb. The n/a
: combos will not make enough power to even
: run 9.50's with a 750 or 800..
: Might also get the slower hot street cars
: that stopped racing to change their carbs
: and take the transbrakes off to get more
: cars...
:
: So, Russ, Gary, Tony, Craig and anyone else
: I am missing, do you have a problem with
: this?
: It still might not get the rule changed, but
: he will have more leverage if all you are ok
: with it
:
: thanks
: Damon, possible future n/a L/S racer
:
:
:

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Limited Street racers - qwiknotch June 30, 2009, 11:08 pm

Re: Limited Street racers - CraigLS1 July 8, 2009, 12:18 am

I don't want a dominator... - qwiknotch July 8, 2009, 9:52 am

Re: I don't want a dominator... - Ryan Saiki July 9, 2009, 9:59 am

Re: I don't want a dominator... - CraigLS1 July 9, 2009, 12:53 am

Time for a productive change in L/S - Brandt Racing July 2, 2009, 9:19 am

Re: Time for a productive change in L/S - LS89RACER July 2, 2009, 9:31 pm

Re: Pro Jackstand racers - ANTHONY July 1, 2009, 1:26 am

Re: Pro Jackstand racers - Ryan Saiki July 1, 2009, 10:53 am

Re: Pro Jackstand racers - ANTHONY July 9, 2009, 2:48 pm

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--Previous Message-- : Mel needs to look at WCHR limited 10.5 class. : After 3 race's there were 10 car running : that class. There were big block cars and : small block cars and they are all : competitive. They run on a MUCH BETTER TIRE : than the ET street. If there were a class : close to these rules some of the old true : street guys could run if they were not : competitive in Wild street. The class also : needs a better pay out $550.00 wont attract : many people to come out or bulid a car. Just : my two cents. : : : --Previous Message-- : Damon, : First off it's good that you listed the : entire Limited field for comment, I only : hope you didn't get a cramp in your hand : listing all 4 of us. The way I see it if it : gets you to the track I'll loan you a 4500 : to put on top of whatever motor you will be : using. I personally think at this point Mel : should allow big blocks as well (with : restrictions of course) Maybe have them run : a #4 Nitrous line and a limited cubic inch : rule. I think right now the nitrous cars are : at a disadvantage by the carburation limit : we have compared to the unrestricted EFI : 80mm intercooled turbo rule. I would like to : see that changed as well but was shot down : on that. The way I see it, The rule changes : that have been thrown at us yearly have most : certainly taken a class that had multiple : cars, to a class that will be extinct if : someone doesnt start listening to some of : the suggestions and not just throw the new : rules out there. The old rules 5 years ago : were cool as hell for the class and we sure : better not ever see them again, as we lost : allot of money changing everything. I'm all : for the new rules when they work. However if : you look, the rule changes have steadily : dropped cars from the class. Why would you : build a $100,000.00 car for a $550.00 payout : with limited contingency? and when you open : the door for the new cars to come in they : don't show up anyway and it's still the same : 3 guys. Only now they know at any given : moment if they don't spend $15,000.00 to : $20,000.00 on a DFI Turbo or supercharger : laptop in the lanes setup we could get our : a$$ handed to us at any given race with us : flowing 800cfm and them flowing 1500cfm or : so with 160lb injectors? The class has : gotten away from the basics and that has : killed it in my opinion. Understand before : we all start typing that I'm not b###hing : just stating facts, and I'll race no matter : what the rules are, because that's what I : love to do. And yes don't worry I'm sure I : will build a motec turbocharged 80mm : intercooled 415" Dutweiller tuned at : the starting line car to go have fun with in : Limited Street because that seems fair to me : "Right" Plus on my racing budget I : can afford to do it. How about everyone : else? It's no fun racing with yourself or : even the same 2 or 3 guys. So we need to : make some kind of change and maybe it's time : for the racers to be heard and listened to. : : Gary Brandt L/S-2 : --Previous Message-- : I talked to Robert and he wanted me to check : with you guys to see if you were willing to : change the rule for the carb size for the : naturally aspirated combos and allow any : size 4150 or even just a 950carb. The n/a : combos will not make enough power to even : run 9.50's with a 750 or 800.. : Might also get the slower hot street cars : that stopped racing to change their carbs : and take the transbrakes off to get more : cars... : : So, Russ, Gary, Tony, Craig and anyone else : I am missing, do you have a problem with : this? : It still might not get the rule changed, but : he will have more leverage if all you are ok : with it : : thanks : Damon, possible future n/a L/S racer : : : : :

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