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It's reality though. Most people don't have either the interest of the mental capacity
to think about politics and philosophy as you do. They get a small amount of time thinking about it and they make judgements based on this. This is just a part of reality and one of the problems with democracy that we just have to accept.
Hunt comes across as weak and Boris comes across as an idiot with charm. You can see through both these positions but a large part of society can't, so it is really important in terms of electability.
Of course, I think this whole saga is really starting to bring to the attention of joe public the power of the media and how that relates to what someone like Boris is and why he is being backed by so many media organisations. Unfortunately this also increases people's disaffection with politics and the likelihood they will think it's all a complete sham and will ultimately increase views on fake media, fake news, conspiracies etc. I don't think it can be solved without a complete reorganisation of media ownership. Not sure what the EU's stance on this is.
personal characteristics rather than policy. Saying you don't like Hunt because he can't be trusted with the NHS (fair point) but that Johnson can makes no sense at all.
Easy to say Labour would be miles ahead without Corbyn, there's no way of knowing. A more centrist leader would undoubtedly pick up votes from some areas but lose them in others, it's impossible to say what the overall net result would be.
If you look at Labour's manifesto from 2017, it isn't "hard left", the ideas within are mostly mainstream social democratic policies that are in place across Europe. It's only in this country that they are regarded as dangerous left-wing Bolshevik dogma.
Corbyn obviously has his personal views, but has said all along that his aim is to put power in the hands of the rank and file.
At least part of the reason for his unpopularity is down to the misrepresentation of his views and actions by a hostile media, which I have to say he doesn't do a very good job at countering.
The leader is obviously important but it shouldn't be the be all and end all when deciding how to cast your vote IMO.
Corbyn is not a popular choice for PM.
If Labour had someone not perceived as far left they would be miles ahead in the polls, possibly even in government.
LBC the other night :
Iain Dale : "So who do you prefer, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt"?
Caller : "Jeremy Hunt would be a terrible PM. I'm a doctor and I will never forgive him for what he did to the NHS."
Dale : "Which party do you usually vote for?"
Caller : "Well, usually Labour, but I wouldn't vote for Corbyn."
Dale : "So, in a general election, would you vote for Corbyn or Hunt?"
Caller : "Corbyn".
Dale : "So what if it was Corbyn or Johnson?"
Caller : "Johnson, yeah, I think Johnson definitely over Corbyn"
Everyone is free to vote however they like, but I just don't see the logic. Perceived personality of the leader is the be all and end all, no matter the ideology or policies of their party?
When you have conversations with people who have been called to the Bar who believe trading on WTO Rules is good for the country and that a No Deal is better than a bad deal ( whatever that means) ..and ppl who think Farage is good for the country because he makes good speaches....and that we stood alone and won in 1940 and we can do it again
and those who vote Brexit and didnt realise it wont be so easy now tO retire to Spain & Portugal.
YES OH YES ABSOLUTELY.
such a grand scale? Genuine question. I just don't see how he gets away with it. He's not *quite* as crazy as Trump. The ERG vultures are already waiting to pick at his bones and he isn't even leader yet! It's quite possible he will throw the country under the bus to keep his promise, and also possible he will successfully blame someone else (with the help of his media cheerleaders).
I think he's ####ed. But what do I know, predictions are dangerous these days
and he will win the next Presidential Election UNLESS OPRAH stands against him !!
I am starting to think though, that the voice in Johnson's head that says "you're setting yourself up for a fall" is getting louder. His egotism may drown it out but he is not coming across as full of confidence and bravado, in the way that his huge poll lead would make you think he should be.
He's made another undeliverable promise. But this time, he's going to have to carry the can for it.
Either we leave on the 31st of Oct with no deal and no contingency plan and the arse falls out of the economy, or he faces the full force of Brexiteer rage from inside and outside his party as the gig is postponed again.
Either way, his reputation is ####ed. And his party's electoral chances.
Your move, de Piffle.