But that's my point
"Look at the front pages of The S*n and The Express this morning, if you need any proof."
That isn't proof that we're predominantly right wing; it's merely proof that our corporate media projects right wing ideology.
Because we are, at least in England. It's that simple. It's imbued into the nation's psyche.
Look at the front pages of The S*n and The Express this morning, if you need any proof.
The belief that a genuinely left wing party could actually win and then successfully wield power is sorely lacking. As Paul often comments here (I think, apologies if I am wrong), he believes the UK to be a predominantly right wing nation of people. He's not alone. I'd suggest quite a lot of people - including many politicians - don't believe that a majority of people support progressive politics. Furthermore, those politicians do not believe they can persuade a majority to support progressive politics. So we get 'left wing' political parties supporting (settling) for the relative safety of the undemocratic, neoliberal EU. That's political expediency.
I believe this is where Corbyn is truly wavering regarding Brexit. Not whether he supports it or not - I think it's clear to everybody that he does - but whether or not he can persuade a majority to disregard EU membership and support genuine progressive politics.
Why is it that we perceive ourselves to be predominantly right wing? Why do our progressive politicians doubt they can get us to support their policies and instead settle for neoliberal institutions? Is that really our limit? Why?
I don't have to tell you how right wing our corporate media is - from The Mail to The Guardian - it's not a coincidence. They are gatekeepers, they set the parameters, decide the limits. Which is why I take notice of changes in comment sections (for example): it's less about politics and more about power.
And, therefore, disaster beckons.
HM Government policy is Hard Brexit. Call me old fashioned, but I like my opposition politicians to oppose.
His record suggests he was and still is very much a Bennite thinker.
But I'm also sure he doesn't want the UK to be an unregulated tax haven. Unfortunately, for some time The City has been the epicentre of the UK's global tax haven spider's web, and wields undue power from that position.
Maybe he wants to change all of that and is gambling on gaining power as the priority being the best way to proceed?
Having said that, I totally understand: there's a multitude of issues I wish he had been more forthright, more combative on. But he hasn't, and I have no choice but to continue to support him. At present, anything else leads to disaster.
Hence my difficulty locating it.
And, yes, they are pissed off with Corbyn over Brexiteer, which they see him as enabling rather than opposing. They see their futures being pissed up the wall by a cadre of tax evaders and oligarchs determined to turn Britain into some sort of Singaporean regulation free shell, which they think Corbyn should vehemently oppose.
But he isn't, and it's all in the name of electoral expediency.
Was it a link to an opinion piece or just a comment in a discussion thread? I'd be interested to see it.
Are your kids pissed off with Corbyn regarding Brexit, and/or for other reasons?
He's certainly not perfect but he's far and away the politician most removed from Rees-Mogg et al.
I see nothing to be optimistic about when Brexit is being driven by Rees Mogg and his cabal.
Somebody posted something up yesterday about the seeds of fascism having been down, showing how what we are seeing eerily reflects the 1930's, and I wish I'd kept hold of it because it was spot on.
By the way, my two young people, both Labour Party members, are utterly pissed off with Corbyn right now.
That's a very pessimistic view which doesn't fit well with the numbers of young people who support Corbyn, for example.
But that aside, I genuinely believe the 'powers that be' are losing their grip on the central narrative. You only have to look at the comments sections below many online news/opinion articles to see that.
It's a shoot of hope.
To wear the straitjacket of serfdom instead.
What a choice, eh?
While I understand your point of view, I could equally state that I'm glad my daughter may now have a chance to escape the neoliberal straitjacket.
Both are perfectly valid.
I suppose it depends on which you think is more important. I'm of the opinion that one is short term thinking, the other long term, and it's the latter that will effect our children more.
Did you see this... (Troll face) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.html
....assuming we don't fall out in a hard Brexit by the time we get through the inevitable endless transition he will probably be at voting age. Lots of older voters and angry middle aged men with high blood pressure who voted Brexit will have died off and all these youngsters will have to endure the shit left for them. We already have THE best deal of any nation in the EU28 and even if we only half leave we will never get that back.
It's a travesty.
( You are right in your original point, obviously....was a schoolboy error )
I agree 100%. It just doesn't help when the likes of Jukes make basic mistakes on social media that the likes of Farage/Banks can easily jump on.
......50.1% of those who vote can fundamentally change things.
But the young generation who had no vote in this farce but will have to live with the consequences while scumbags like Banks and Farage will no doubt get away with their lies deserve a chance to change this.
And 100% incorrect.