Posted by Trevor on 29/9/2009, 3:39 pm |
- Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Mark L on 29/9/2009, 10:50 pm, in reply to "Hypnosis"
Hi,
since I discovered this message board about a year ago, I have heard mixed reviews on hypnotherapy. Iv had 2 sessions of hypnotherapy for my AP and didnt notice any difference however some have reported a slight improvement. I havent heard it curing anyone.
Im not sure on hypnosis though im afraid, its different from hypnotherapy!
Mark - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Andrew on 30/9/2009, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Hypnosis"
Hi Trevor
You may be interested in our FAQ on this subject on our website.
http://www.ukpt.org.uk/first_visit/first_visit_Faq.htm
cheers
Andrew - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by graham on 4/11/2009, 10:46 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
I have tried this twice with two different hypnotists but didnt find any significant change,that doesnt mean to say it doesnt work for everyone but i think you need to find one who actually understands what wrong first,I went to one who "specialized" in phobia,s but this was just a general statement i think and non specific to paruresis - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by alex on 5/11/2009, 7:11 am, in reply to "Hypnosis"
as paruresis is now thought to be more of a social anxiety disorder rather than a phobia then CBT or other versions of this approach are the best way forwards
too many people have told me that hypnosis does not work for them
this does not mean that for some there is help of one kind or another
my advice is to get to a workshop where we know people get some help - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Eddie O' on 5/11/2009, 8:25 pm, in reply to "Hypnosis"
Hi Trevor,
I have had 12 week (hours) of hypnotherapy, I honestly believe it is a waste of time and money. It might make you feel better about yourself during the course of the therapy. should you decide to go for it all I can say is be ready some disappointment you may experience when the course is finished, as for me I'm putting my faith in a workshop & hoping for the best
Best of luck Trevor
Eddie O' - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Graham on 6/11/2009, 10:26 am, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
hi eddie,
As i say i tried two differnet people and like you although it does help you to relax it had little or no effect. - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by aNON on 16/11/2009, 5:27 pm, in reply to "Hypnosis"
I had reputable hypnosis for a couple of years re:this problem (amongst others) and 12 years on I still have this wee wee issue. I attended NLP courses by one of the NLP co-creators and... I can relax, but not pee... It is like its hardwired. I still think the above options will work for some people but must say i was very disappointed with the lack of results since hypnosis is meant to be a way to affect your brain and nervous system. - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Andrew on 16/11/2009, 10:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Hi Anon
What degree of paruresis do you have i.e. where can you and cant you go?
I ask because I wonder whether hypnosis may work for mild cases but not for more severe caes.
cheers
Andrew - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Anon on 30/11/2009, 2:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Hi. I can manage most urinals if there is no one around. Stalls mostly work if it ain't to busy or small. I always had problems going to pubs/concerts/open air places etc so ended up being a toilet monitorer. I don't go out to pubs drinking etc anymore. If I go to a show I always drive. Its a pure psychological issue.
I have been in some painful stressful situations over the years, but I would say overall I have a mild/mid condition 99%
I just done a Hypnotherapy course! And I still have this problem! My unconscious obviously won't be havin it!
Anon
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Posted by Pete L on 1/12/2009, 11:20 am, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Hi Anon
Having had hypnoterapy myself I can concur that this particular condition doesn't get 'treated/ cured' by such means.
I've already said on a previous thread that this condition has a physical asscociation with it. You can talk about it and address teh issues in your head unitl you are blue in face, however, until you get the physical practice in, you will not fully address the issue.
You will note from many posts on this site the word 'workshop' mentioned. Having experienced a workshop myself, I can only say that this is the way. Get yourself to a workshop if you can.
In the meantime, read through the many posts and their replies. In addition, reading the book 'Shy Bladder Syndrome' WILL help.
Best wishes
Pete - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Anon on 1/12/2009, 6:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Thanks Pete. Yeah I am very interested in a workshop so will email Andrew for some details.
I'm just curious - has ANYONE had any form of success using hypnosis?
Thanks.
Anon - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by AndyM
on 1/12/2009, 10:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"I sought out and received hypnotherapy from a licensed, PhD Psychologist several years ago. Like many others who have reported on the UK and US Sites, it didn't prove to be The Answer. However, for me it wasn't a total loss. I had a history of either total avoidance of public loos or "bailing out" when the going got tough. Hypnotherapy helped me to quit quitting. So it did help me to deal much better with the Avoidant part of Avoidant Paruresis.
But compare that to what I've gained from Workshops. 2009 will be the first year I haven't attended one since 2005; the only reason (besides money) I didn't go this year is because I regularly practice with a couple of men I met at my last Workshop. Compared to 2005, I'd say I'm at least 85% improved. Airports,for example,used to be about an 8.9 degree-of-difficulty on the 10-scale. Today, I'd call it about a 4.0: still uncomfortable but always manage to go (EVEN if my first attempt is a no-go; no more quitting).
If you consider my progress as 100 Units, I'd say at least 95 of them came out of my Workshop experiences, and only 5 attributable to hypnotherapy. I believe that trying to overcome shy bladder without going to a Workshop is like trying to learn karate by reading about it.
--AndyM - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Steven on 1/12/2009, 7:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Isn't hypnosis kinda responsible for Ap in the first place? By this I mean negative suggestions cause it, and this is a form of self hypnosis.
I clearly remember when I was a kid thinking that I couldn't pee in front of others and low and behold it started to get worse and now I'm where I am an Ap sufferer of 30 years.
So if negative suggestions can cause it, positive suggestions over a long period of time might be able to reverse it right? - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Pete L on 2/12/2009, 4:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Hi Steven
I suppose the main problem here is that you are with the hypnotherapist at the wrong time. The time you probably need there support the most is in the toilet. Obviously you can not hold a therapy session in the toilet so, you are left with only facing this problem indirectly. Though the therapist may be able to retrain your thought pattern, you are still left with having to deal with the physical aspect of this problem, actually going to the toilets.
I guess this is why so many people say that hypnotherapy is not the way forward. Having had hynotherapy myself, I can only agree those comments.
Pete - Re: Hypnosis
Posted by Andrew on 2/12/2009, 6:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Hypnosis"
Hi Steven
Yes a negative suggestion can cause it, but dont forget the years of negative reinforcement that follow.
Secondly we often find that it is only while doing the graduated exposure, that the individual gets a proper handle on the factors that unsettle him or her.
Andrew