Thanks for your thoughts. Especially regarding passing it on to kids. After my first post, there was that terrible earthquake in mexico. Puts into perspective my issues. Also i was thinking that as well as a fear i also just don't like standing around other men with my bits out. Like that is somehow the norm in our world. But back in the day fhere wouldn't had been these spaces so the problem literally wouldnt exist. My wife has got us tickets to a big show soon so i'm already dreading themid interval desperate for a piss drama. On a lighter note, i watched a batman film years ago and the opening sequence was how he became batman- because his greatest fear was bats, and he conquered it so he became Batman, so if i ever conquered my greatest fear- and became a super hero i would jave to become Urinalman. Hope its ok to try to bring a bit of humour to our misery. Also after the post i decided that if i have the opportunity to use public loos i would have a go so i did that, with toddler in pram, i think that made it easier still because there was a distraction I'd drunk so much water in preparation, plus there was only one guy in and there was masses of space between us. It was easy in there circumstances, not much of a test but a small success i suppose. I thought i'd try to to do that more see if i can normalise the process a bit.