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Posted by Mayor Ring on 5/10/2009, 6:10 pm, in reply to "RE: SOUTH AFRICA PA FLIGHTS 747SP JETS"
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: I mymemory is correct. Pan Am launched an
: around the world service 747SP with five or
: six stops NRT, JNB, GUM, GIG, JFK, I dont
: recall the routing. This fight was to
: celebrated Pan Am's years of serving the
: public. Hope someone else can add more..JJ
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: Thank you, Janet, for clearing that up for
: me---I couldn't help but wonder when there
: was a Guam/Joburg trip---I'm easily confused
: but I think I've got it now---Glad you
: enjoyed the trip---That was always an aim of
: Pan Am's---Have a good one---KB
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: Janet---Could you tell us more about that
: Guam-South Africa trip?---Thanks--KB
: Hi Ken-I can't remember much more except it
: was in the fall of 1977. A businessman from
: Guam and I were the only people from the
: Pacific to be invited on the flight. Others
: were travel agents, writers, etc. from the
: States. I flew to San Francisco to get visas
: for Brazil and South Africa, then to New
: York, then to Rio. We stayed in Rio a few
: days, then flew the first flight (so I
: thought) between Rio and Johannesburg. We
: spent one night in J-burg, then flew to Cape
: Town and back to Rio. Pan Am invited me
: because I was a reporter and feature writer
: on Guam. Wish I could tell you more except I
: enjoyed the entire trip!
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: I was privileged to be on Pan Am's inaugural
: flight from Rio de Janeiro to
: Johannesburg,South Africa, in 1977. I
: recently visited Rio and am writing a story
: about my two visits there. Can anyone tell
: me the type of aircraft on that flight? I
: would appreciate any facts about that trip
: and interesting details. I'll never forget
: that fabulous trip from Guam to South Africa
: and return on First Class Pan Am. Thanks,
: Janet gto
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:Hi Juan Ken Janet and other people. I can
: recall this flight in 1977 from JFK,NRT JNB.
: Last flight by 747sp PAN AM aircraft was in
: Feb
: 1982 as PAN AM was selling off there baby
: jumbo
: fleet to UAL . PA 234 A/C 747sp21 Clipper
: Liberty Belle N539PA..?? correct me if i am
: wrong
: if thats the rego to this Clipper jet. As a
: politican for the African Goverment at the
: time
: many of our Adminstration staff flew this
: route
: which was the quickest and less timming for
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: flight. Under comarnd of captain Briggs F/O
: J Heffernan F/E S Moody. This can be found
: at
: Google search world wide the history of this
: flight. It was later taken over by the much
: larger 747-100's and in 1986 due to cut
: backs with PAN AM this route ceased with the
: airline and with the tiers between the
: African Goverment for which Africa became
: unsafe for travelling to.
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: Emmanual Kizroy
: former PAN AM passenger / African Goverment
: of somarlia/Kenya/congo proverlince
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:To add to your story and to correct some data 
AN AM flew the 747sp service direct from JFK TO JNB the 747sp's wern't used on GUM/NRT/JFK at
:any stage. The 707's however went through JFK/GUM/NRT/JNB until PAN AM replace them with
:the 747-100's and on FRI/MON used DC10'S as
: pax loadings were less on these days compare
:to weekend flts and mid week flights. They
:introduced the 747sp service direct to JNB from
:JFK. The original flt operated out of MIA/JFK
:NRT/JNB. MIA was discontinued after a year and
:JFK was the start of the long haul flight.
:Thank you
:yes two of PAN AM 747sp's were destine for
:SAA off the production line in 1978 but was
:later cancelled order PAN AM aquired them
Mayor Ring (former SAA F/A JNB 1967/1999)
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