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Posted by Aurora on 12/2/2008, 9:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Message for Ken Baker or Mark Burmedze"
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: Hello fella's I carn't help noticing you
: aren't very helpful to the QST people are
: wanting to know. Being a PAN AM pilot as Ken
: Baker states you should know the history of
: your airline being a pilot buddy boy. As for
: Mark Burmedze who gets his info from his
: Univirsity and the PAN AM data records. It;s
: not all the records you have or the history
: of PAN AM and on these pages you state you
: worked for Continental Airlines in past
: years. I have done some research and being
: in Continental airlines Recruitment area we
: cannot find you on the data going back to
: 1970's?? Now Ken Baker being a sponsor of
: this web site you should have much knowledge
: of this great airline you worked for which
: went belly up because of your Boss Juan T
: Trippe who crippled the airline from the
: start. So it looks like you have either lost
: your touge or don't know a great deal about
: the history of PAN AM I would suggest to
: many people to go to PAN AM.ORG web site to
: get the real info and email to the site
: owners who can really help you out. Thank
: you.
:
: Regards
:
: Elistp Passico former Continental Airlines
: recruitment staff
:
: Mr E. Passico
:
: I beleive you should review the PanAm.org
: website one more time. The history of Pan
: American Airways is inextricably linked to
: the expansive vision and singular effort of
: one man - Juan Trippe. He was one of the
: great leaders of the American airline
: industry for forty years and his inovations
: lead to the first commercial air service
: across the Pacific to Asia and South Pacific
: in 1935, and the Atlantic in the 1939. He
: was the first airline CEO to order airplanes
: to specific specifications; the Sikorsky-42
: (1931), the Martin 130 (China Clipper)
: (1933)the Boeing 314 (1936). Pan Am was the
: first, through his leadership, to introduce
: commercial jet service to Americans (1958);
: the Boeing 707 and DC 8. Boeing built the
: B-747 (1969) on Juan Trippe's request and
: hand shake. Pan Am purchased the first 33
: B-747 aircraft and eventually a fleet of
: over sixty. Today, the worlds airlines
: industry has benefited from many ideas and
: inovations Juan Trippe incorporated into Pan
: Am (Air to ground radio communication for
: one). I could go on and on about Juan Trippe
: and his visionary ideas but I think you
: realize by now your comments were out of
: place and incorrect.
:
: Regards,
: Aurora
:
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: Hi Ken Baker I have read your comments and
: you are right to a point. If you go back to
: the early years and read over the PAN AM
: data you will fined that Juan Trippe who i
: can say was a great man as you state but he
: brought PAN AM to the end weather you egnore
: or chosse to agree being a former PAA pilot
: or not. He got the airline in to debit soon
: after he ordered the 33 747;s yet going back
: to the history only 25 were delivered on
: time and the remaining five were stored in
: the desert for a number of months or years
: and never entered there first paid flights
: with PAN AM he couldn't afford the planes.
: Secondly they were leased or sold to other
: carriers. Also you look at the 747sp21 jets
: he brought. They wern't actually owned at
: all by PAN AM they were leased and brought
: later seven of those the remaining fleet
: when sold to UAL were paid out by that
: airline at a cheap price to the finance
: companies. Another data entry into PAN AM
: RECORDS WHICH I MIGHT ADD IS ON FILE! N748PA
: Clipper Crest Of The Wave N749PA Clipper
: Dashing Wave two of many 747s that were
: scrapped weren't owned by PAN AM as they
: were under leasing finacial arrangements so
: the list goes on. "READ ALL ABOUT IT
: KEN BAKER" Yes well done Juan Trippe
: with a hand shake you did remarkably well
: and changed the avation jet age era but at
: the same time he dug a big whole or a grave
: for his airline and staff who went down
: which could have being prevented and i
: happen to be one of many who worked for PAN
: AM and our boss. But look what happen to us
: all did we get a golden hand shake. I don't
: know if you did KEN but we sure didn't nor a
: pay out from the fallen Queen of the skies.
: Thank you
:
: Emma Blackson
: former PAA financial Management A/C
: purchasing.
:
Dear Bright Eyes,
I agree with you that the company originally ordered too many 747s but the decision to order the 747 was based on passenger loads during the sixties, which were growing at 15% a year. The 707 flights were chuck a-block full at the time. No one could foresee there would be a world recession in 1969. The real reason for Pan Am’s demise was the ineptness of the follow-on CEOs after Trippe. Harold Gray was dying of cancer during his tenor and Najeeb Halaby admitted that he was incapable of running Pan Am; he was also stabed in the back by Sewell. General William Sewell, arrogant and stubborn bought National airlines and paid too much for a system that didn’t fit with Pan Am nor was it culturally compatible. He brought the National Airline employees contracts up to par with Pan Am employees. All this money was wasted when the company could have purchased new airplanes and started its own domestic system because airline regulation was about to end. Ed Acker (Slick Eddy) sold the most lucrative portion of Pan Am in 1985 to United, the Pacific routes, without an open bid by other airlines, for 715 million dollars. United made billions of dollars off those routes. The last CEO, I can’t think of his name, was just an empty suit drawing a pay check.
Terrorism also played a big part of Pan Am’s demise:
Pan Am needed 65% load factor to break even in the 1980s, after Chernobyl nuclear disaster in the April 1986, our load factor drop to 31%, then the U.S. military bombing of Libya in July 1986, scared the public even more and our load factor dropped to 15%. When the U.S. Navy shot down an Iranian airliner by mistake in August 1988, the Muslims terrorist got even with the U.S. by blowing-up Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland which was the last nail in the coffin. We also had other terrorism in Pakistan where nine people were killed in a hijacking during the early eighties.
The debt load of the 747s could have been managed if our management had some integrity and did the job they were hired to do.
Regards,
Aurora
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