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Cal to Arkansas….Oats to UK….will Wade or Bucky McMillan to bama.

Posted by villain <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=villain' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 0:34:10
Stupidhead

Wonder if there will be a player for team vulture to poach?

probably just another real jerk in life

To think SMU started the whole thing. Wild. *

Posted by Cool Hand Luke <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Cool+Hand+Luke' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 9:54:42, in reply to "Cal to Arkansas….Oats to UK….will Wade or Bucky McMillan to bama."
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I've said everything that needed to be said a thousand times. Now it's up to you.

I warned you about him. I anticipate people in the middle being very interested in this.

Like Matt Doherty's failure started our chain

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 10:00:35, in reply to "To think SMU started the whole thing. Wild. *"

If he hadn't been poor at Carolina - although he recruited the guys who won it all - Roy would have stayed at Kansas and who knows how long we would have kept Self?

It's interesting to speculate about the possibilities.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 10:03:31, in reply to "Like Matt Doherty's failure started our chain"
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Would Self have taken the 2005 squad to the finals? Probably but who knows?

Personally, I think Self likely would have left sooner rather than later no matter how much success he enjoyed at Illinois.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the Illinois job is solidly in the 2nd peak.

Posted by villain <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=villain' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 12:32:50, in reply to "It's interesting to speculate about the possibilities."
Stupidhead

UK, UNC, & Duke are really the only ones that "you can't turn down".

I don't think KU is in that territory and if we had had a competent AD at the time, I don't think we would've lost Self to them. KU is far more illustrious today than it was then.

After the top tier, you have
KU
UCLA
Texas
Arizona
Illinois
Indiana
Louisville
Michigan
tOSU
maybe Florida
UConn

These are the schools with fertile recruiting grounds, large/hungry fan bases, and athletic departments with both the resources and will to win at basketball. On that list I think Self would have gone to any of them for the right offer, but I also think he absolutely would have stayed as long as Illinois matched. FURG's ego lost us Bill Self and cratered our program for 2 decades....we just didn't know it at the time for a couple more years.

probably just another real jerk in life

Kentucky would have scooped up Self if KU hadn't. *

Posted by Cool Hand Luke <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Cool+Hand+Luke' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 10:05:34, in reply to "It's interesting to speculate about the possibilities."
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I've said everything that needed to be said a thousand times. Now it's up to you.

I warned you about him. I anticipate people in the middle being very interested in this.

Probably. Job opened in 2007. A few more years would have been nice.

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 10:14:51, in reply to "Kentucky would have scooped up Self if KU hadn't. *"

And some better players among the underclassmen, like when we lost Charlie V when Self left. Maybe then we could have attracted a coach a step up from Weber.

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After reading CHL's post, I went and checked the timeline here.

Posted by Lexillini <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Lexillini' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 11:50:15, in reply to "Probably. Job opened in 2007. A few more years would have been nice."

I'm pretty confident that Self would not still have been at Illinois as late as 2007. Assuming he too would have taken the 2005 squad to the finals, he would have been poached immediately thereafter.

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Socialism is the gospel of envy.

there needed to be a suitable opening with an upgrade*

Posted by Potomac <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=Potomac' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 12:26:34, in reply to "After reading CHL's post, I went and checked the timeline here."

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I'm pretty confident that Self would not still have been at Illinois as late as 2007. Assuming he too would have taken the 2005 squad to the finals, he would have been poached immediately thereafter.

Or maybe Chris Beard takes UK or Alabama*

Posted by villain <iframe src='https://members.boardhost.com/onedeuce/info/user=villain' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2024, 0:36:55, in reply to "Cal to Arkansas….Oats to UK….will Wade or Bucky McMillan to bama."
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Wonder if there will be a player for team vulture to poach?

probably just another real jerk in life

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