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Maybe some influential people insist on a "Kansas man"
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Posted by Potomac
on February 24, 2017, 14:22:50, in reply to "
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Similar to what UNC has done in its hiring. Thus, anybody who is not part of that school's tradition starts out working uphill.
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but IMO there were other factors that separted him from Weber, Groce, and Muller.
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but if you're designing an offense around 17 foot jumpshots with little offensive rebounding, it's not going to work out for you.
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I feel like this needs to be said re: Dan Muller
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 8:36:18
We better not hire him*
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mrap24
February 25, 2017, 19:33:14
oh god they made t shirts
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nerdstats
February 25, 2017, 13:09:07
The PSU logo should be on top knocking us down*
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mrap24
February 25, 2017, 19:33:45
The gimmicks and slogans are old and have run their course. I can't wait for a real coach*
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Victor's bananas
February 25, 2017, 15:47:16
fml*
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gig
February 25, 2017, 13:12:51
Chris Holtmann*
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AceFrehley
February 24, 2017, 13:09:06
Hearing he's talking to ncsu*
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nerdstats
February 25, 2017, 9:20:23
Ncsu is a terrible gig. You'll always be the third best option
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AceFrehley
February 25, 2017, 12:09:21
duke isnt mining NC
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nerdstats
February 25, 2017, 13:17:03
good point but it's not just about recruits. they may have a good fanbase
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AceFrehley
February 25, 2017, 19:39:51
^ edited out a dumb question*
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AceFrehley
February 25, 2017, 12:10:16
I would be shocked if he went to a middling program like that*
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WesMantooth
February 25, 2017, 12:05:38
Would he be a pussy for passing on that job?*
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Sydney Carton
February 25, 2017, 13:09:00
never callled him a pussy seriously
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WesMantooth
February 25, 2017, 15:14:34
ties to Groce, probably won't be interested*
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detlef
February 24, 2017, 13:16:01
No. If he turns us down it's for other reasons. *
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AceFrehley
February 24, 2017, 18:26:29
Went to college with Groce, coached with Groce at Ohio, but, sure "other reasons"*
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SqueakySteveKelly
February 25, 2017, 15:04:31
I think it would be more along the lines of he really likes Butler
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WesMantooth
February 24, 2017, 16:11:41
If that's his thinking, then he's a pussy and I don't want him. Buh bye*
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Pooter
February 25, 2017, 9:26:45
he would be a rich pussy with a fan base that likes him
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WesMantooth
February 25, 2017, 9:47:29
what about steve forbes? too close to bruce pearl?
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:48:59
Side jack: Do you think the administrative resistance to Cuonzo is mainly petty?
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 11:07:32
i think it's petty, but it's both sides
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 11:11:19
If you're going to go KS, just go full blown Bruce Pearl.
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 10:53:50
Who says we are? *
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 10:25:50
Dan Muller's agent.*
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 11:14:21
Lol, no one is.*
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HimeysPharmacist
February 24, 2017, 11:08:12
Yeah, I don't believe any of this.
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DouchieHowser
February 24, 2017, 10:55:44
And to Syd's original point, I agree he would be a terrible hire.*
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DouchieHowser
February 24, 2017, 10:56:08
Yeah, that's why I asked
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 10:59:22
Oh yeah, I'm sure Josh will hire someone terrific*
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:32:54
From your sarcasm, I'm curious what leads you to believe he won't?*
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 10:51:56
"Someone terrific" is mostly a dig at Jeff Frank for his Trumpish belief in Whitman
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 11:03:16
I'm more concerned that there is just no Bill Self type coach out there
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 11:25:56
and what was self?
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:18:43
self was the 'it" coach of the year. and we were the best program that needed a coach at the time
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AceFrehley
February 24, 2017, 10:29:27
More than just that year; other BCS schools had taken a run at Self previously.*
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 11:19:09
Not really. We hired him in June.*
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:36:16
i remember it clearly. he was the prize of the field. i was psyched when they started talking
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AceFrehley
February 24, 2017, 10:59:55
It was pretty stunning. So unlike the usual Illinois move. *
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 11:07:06
Stunning in that he was still available?*
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 11:10:24
No, that we'd go after the hot commodity *
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 11:25:00
We went after the hot commodities last time. They laughed at us.
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 11:37:15
My comment was about the Self hire
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 12:00:27
Lon wasn't exactly a bottom of the barrel hire either was he?
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 12:03:38
Mostly because we hadn't?
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 12:09:02
Pretty sure Gunther made it public that he was going after FF experience...
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 13:05:13
Additionally: it will be interesting to see if Whitman can maintain the Cone of Silence.
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 13:07:59
2 "insider" posts on Scout
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 13:41:31
Awesome sauce. One of those is believable
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 13:48:03
ive heard he's got the paperwork & probably signed it
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 13:57:36
The new contract part isn't believable though
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 14:11:26
yeah that part isn't true*
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 14:14:18
Is it just me, or is there no one that really screams they are in that caliber this year?
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 11:18:07
I concur*
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Mismysteri
February 24, 2017, 11:19:21
Who is "the" hot HC at a non BCS school in 2017? Creighton's guy?
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 11:24:21
Archie *
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 11:25:26
Good point. Although much like Greggg... he's almost a caricature of a non-jumper right now.
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 11:30:39
Yeah, he's not quite the same rising star as Self was, but similar enough resume *
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jdl
February 24, 2017, 11:38:05
And we're not coming off "losing Lon to the NBA". I'd take him.
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 11:50:29
That's kind of where I'm resolving myself to.
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Figs
February 24, 2017, 12:01:00
It's sad to realize Wisconsin has an easier time hiring a hoops coach. :-( *
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osklister
February 24, 2017, 13:09:48
i was pretty excited about Lon Kruger too. But way more about Self*
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AceFrehley
February 24, 2017, 11:07:49
Whenever somebody asks this question, my response is always the same:
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:22:46
why dont you tell me the name of the movie you want to see?
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:28:52
That's what I can't get over with Groce.
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Lexillini
February 24, 2017, 10:39:59
I was at that cocktail party before Bardo's book signing with him hanging out. He was
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Mismysteri
February 24, 2017, 10:56:35
Introductory presser so overrated. Just looked good compared to meathead
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:44:06
you can be the slickest guy in the room and possess a silver tongue
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:41:08
If you want to chalk the Self hire up to luck, I'm fine with it
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:45:33
there's probably some hindsight bias at play*
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:47:42
Was Kansas taking a risk hiring Self?*
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:52:29
only if they insisted on someone with ties to the school*
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Potomac
February 24, 2017, 11:13:45
Go on*
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 13:36:37
Maybe some influential people insist on a "Kansas man"
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Potomac
February 24, 2017, 14:22:50
He was an assistant at KU under Larry Brown
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 14:34:17
oh, I forgot that. Oops.*
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Potomac
February 24, 2017, 14:35:36
of course not
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 11:08:51
There were plenty of Kansas fans who were skeptical
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 11:14:41
Some people change a room when they walk into it
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 10:30:16
technically, tom crean is one of those guys too
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nerdstats
February 24, 2017, 10:31:51
I would be very upset with Muller as UI coach
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detlef
February 24, 2017, 9:03:58
It would be the starkest possible indicator of
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Sydney Carton
February 24, 2017, 9:07:08
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