Posted by Matty
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on November 8, 2008, 16:46:55, in reply to "DECK CAMOUFLAGE"
Message modified by board administrator November 13, 2008, 11:05:00
The heavily armored "battle carrier" or CVB, yet another uniquely British invention of naval aviation, typically had a much lower profile than more "standard" fleet carriers, which generally had a second (stacked) hangar which the CVB's had to forego, on account of the top-weight of so much armor. For example in the Illustrious class, 3" flight- and hangar decks, and up to a whopping 4.5" hangar side- and -ends armor - resulted in this low-slung appearance, which is relevant to a discussion of camouflage.
Of RN carriers to commission during WWII, Illustrious and the next two of her class - Formidable and Victorious - are the only three we will consider here; the subsequent Indomitable, Implacable and Indefatigable all reverting to incorporation of a second (half-) hangar, with attendant incrased freeboard, and thus appearing more like the earlier, fleet carriers.
The only camo diagram for a full RN flight deck I have ever found is the following one for Victorious:
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Yet all these pics - at left as well as all at right - must reconcile, as all are positively dated to the same week in 1942: August 3-10, and Operations Berserk through -Pedestal (Refs 4-9). This seems possible only if at left Victorious were passing on an opposing course; looking to port and aft from next to her island (the most likely area for officers to be standing, anyway), and at right this is indeed the area where dark, tiger-stipe mottling may still be detectable. Clearly, by August, 1942 Vicky's camo had been largely overpainted, apparently retaining some original tiger-striping only aft of the island.
Vicky's new and bright features, meantime, were very much of a character with those on other Illustriouses, possibly from the outset:
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This long diagonal feature is, in turn, confirmed by the following pics from Operation Torch; November 8-10, 1942:
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Together, all the above provide decent bases for (at least, very general, sylized) diagramming of the following flight deck camo patterns:
- Illustrious, circa mid-1940-1941(?)
- Victorious, May 1941 (Bismarck chase)
- Fomidable, aft of island, mid-1941
- Victorious, August 1942 (Pedestal convoy)
- Formidable, aft of island, November 1942 (Torch landing)
In addition to time limitations here, before attempting these drawings it would be of great help to find additional pics - particularly of Formidable's deck from the island forward, any time(s) between 1941-43 - but of course also any other good pics of any of the RN CVBs, if you've got 'em to share!
Cheers,
-Matty
Ref 1: Alan Raven, Warship Perspectives; Camouflage Volume One: Royal Navy 1939-1941
Ref 2: Web("41oct28VICTORIOUS"):
Source: Imperial War Museum Collections, No. A 6152
Date: 28 October 1941
Author: RN official photographer Coote, R G G (Lt)
Ref 3: Web("Victorious_FAAM2"):
From Vic on Malta convoy
Ref 4(top): Web("Pedestal_6"):
original caption - "Victorious, Indomitable and Eagle (nearest to camera).
"Eagle was sunk on this convoy on 11th August 1942
"Torpedoed by U-73
Ref 5(top): Web("42augEaglePedestal")
Ref 6(ctr-top): Web("Pedestal_5"):
caption "British aircraft carriers Indomitable, Victorious, Eagle escorting convoy "Pedestal"
Ref 7(ctr-rt): Web("Pedestal_1"):
escorting cruisers Charybdis, Sirius and Phoebe. enlargement from Peter C. Smith's "Pedestal - the convoy that saved Malta", W.M. Kimble 1970, 3rd Ed Crecy 1994
Ref 8(btm-left): Web("Pedestal_3"):
from John Winton's "Airpower at Sea, 1939-45. Sidgfwick - Jackson 1976.
Ref 9(btm-rt): Web("Pedestal_(Berserker)2"):
From Paul J Verml's Warships Illustrated No.14 - Malta Convoys 1940 - 43" - Ao A.P. 1988.
Ref 10: Roger Chesneau, Aircraft Carriers of the World, 1914 to the Present; An Illustrated Encyclopedia
Ref 11(top-rt): Web("Formidable"):
caption: - 'A seafire
HMS. Formidable
(TORCH)
Ref 12: Bernard Ireland, The Rise and Fall of the Aircraft Carrier
Ref 13: Web("FORMIDABLEWildcat"):
original is reversed
@ p.149 - G20 or G45?
"Caption- Excellent shot of a Grumman Wildcat on the
flight deck of the aircraft carrier HMS Formidable
IWM TR284
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