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    Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

    Posted by Speeding Hatter on 10/5/2024, 6:40:45

    Seems a reasonable idea. After all, if you travel at 80mph instead of 40mph you'll do your journey in half the time.

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/calls-motorway-speed-limit-raised-29139505.amp

      Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

      Posted by Realistic on 10/5/2024, 13:34:43, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

      If it ever did happen, I would give it 2 months max before it is repealed, as the country works out very quickly that sitting in traffic jams all day from crashes everywhere doesn’t actually save any time at all.

        Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

        Posted by AI Bot on 10/5/2024, 12:56:47, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

        Middle lane hogging is by far my biggest gripe. It is far too common place nowadays and is really dangerous when traffic bunches up and you have people undertaking and overtaking then both trying to get into the same lane without necessarily spotting each other. Yes you shouldn't be undertaking but they also shouldn't be hogging middle lane in first place. I think it's a combination of not knowing how to drive on motorways, being too lazy to be in correct lane or being too nervous to keep changing lanes as they should. The net effect is a massive pain in the arse for all the other drivers who drive correctly.

        The other one is tailgating but that is far less common thankfully.

        Radical idea but

        Posted by Roma fan on 10/5/2024, 11:17:35, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

        I think every driver should be skill-tested and speed limits individually tailored for their skill/reflexes/special awareness.
        Plus all middle lane hoggers should stay at home or learn to drive.

          Re: Radical idea but

          Posted by Godders on 10/5/2024, 12:03:29, in reply to "Radical idea but"

          I do think that all drivers should be re-tested regularly, say every 10 years. The standard of driving is definitely getting worse.

          I have lots of bug bears when it comes to driving form people barging there way through when it's not their right of way, then there's other people who clearly have no idea of the size of vehicle that they're driving who think they need to leave about a metre either side of them for them to proceed down a route with parked cars so they wait for al the traffic to come through even though they could easily pass. Then there's people who don't indicate, people who have next to no lane disciple, and don't even get me started on incompetent parking.

            Re: Radical idea but

            Posted by W12 Hatter on 10/5/2024, 13:52:32, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

            The above is not Godders.

            An 80-word sentence?
            "driving form people"?
            "then there's other people"?
            "next to no lane disciple"?

              Re: Radical idea but

              Posted by Garstang Hatter on 10/5/2024, 12:16:16, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

              "next to no lane disciple"

              I suspect you're the only poster on here whose autocorrect would assume you meant that

              Re: Radical idea but

              Posted by since 63 on 10/5/2024, 12:11:16, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

              blimey Godders, you have just ruled out 99% of all drivers,

                Re: Radical idea but

                Posted by Godders on 10/5/2024, 12:20:22, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                Good!

                Won't get caught up in so much congestion then!

              Re: Radical idea but

              Posted by since 63 on 10/5/2024, 11:52:40, in reply to "Radical idea but"

              out of interest what is a middle-lane hogger?

              is it a driver in the middle lane travelling at a slower speed than the cars in lane 1?

              is it a driver in the middle lane travelling at a greater speed than those in lane 1?

              it is a phrase often heard and perhaps misunderstood.

                Re: Radical idea but

                Posted by Middle lane hogger spotter on 10/5/2024, 14:18:53, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                Found one.

                  Re: Radical idea but

                  Posted by jimmyp on 10/5/2024, 20:24:37, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                  That's pretty much what I got from it as well, TBF.

                  'see that car, two miles up the road, I'm overtaking that'

                  The beards reckon if you can count to ten (seconds) without actually passing anything, you're hogging.

                  The other one is 'if I pull in, I won't get out again'. What both really mean is 'I'm not actually a very competent driver and changing lanes scares the shit out of me'.

                  Cheers, Jim

                    Re: Radical idea but

                    Posted by since 63 on 10/5/2024, 14:30:16, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                    you'r wrong, i tend to drive at 55/60 mph in lane 1 on motorways, plenty fast enough with good MPG. i am in no rush to get anywhere, I always have a giggle when young whipper-snappers overtake me in an inappropriate part of the road and I drive up behind them at the next traffic light. as a matter of interest, how many cars can you overtake before you are designated a lane hogger?

                      Re: Radical idea but

                      Posted by Godders on 10/5/2024, 14:47:12, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                      Number of vehicles isn't the point. The point is that if you can pull over into the nearside line then you should. If you're overtaking a lot of vehicles then you are not hogging the lane.

                    Re: Radical idea but

                    Posted by Nev the bear on 10/5/2024, 12:26:57, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                    The law states keep left except when overtaking, which what I wrote earlier about teaching people to drive,not just pass a test

                      Re: Radical idea but

                      Posted by Godders on 10/5/2024, 11:59:02, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                      It's a driver in the middle lane when they are not overtaking. It's quite straightforward actually. As such it could be any of those scenarios you've posted.

                      It could quite easily be defined by the fact that if it is possible to undertake someone in the middle lane then they are lane hogging.

                        Re: Radical idea but

                        Posted by Roma fan on 10/5/2024, 16:12:30, in reply to "Re: Radical idea but"

                        Spot-on.

                    Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                    Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 10/5/2024, 9:58:48, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                    You've caught a few with that

                      Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                      Posted by MG on 10/5/2024, 8:26:59, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                      It's a plain stupid idea.

                        Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                        Posted by JJ on 10/5/2024, 9:38:32, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                        Agree, especially when you consider cyclists, caravans, mopeds and tractors are all legitimste users of dual carriageways in the region. (Whether you happen to like that mode of transport or not).

                        Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                        Posted by since 63 on 10/5/2024, 7:34:02, in reply to "Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                        hitting a pothole at 40mph is very dangerous but hitting one at a higher speed will increase the danger, anyone who has driven on the motorway network recently will have witnessed the condition of lane 1, it's not safe to drive in that lane as you are continually avoiding potholes. fix the potholes first before increasing the speed limit.

                          Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                          Posted by Nev the bear on 10/5/2024, 7:53:08, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                          Teach people to drive correctly on motorways and 70mph will be quick enough

                            Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                            Posted by Cuba on 10/5/2024, 7:59:17, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                            Or live closer to where you really want to be……

                              Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                              Posted by Nev the bear on 10/5/2024, 8:01:40, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                              Please explain your logic

                                Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                                Posted by Cuba on 10/5/2024, 8:18:54, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                                The gist of the story is that people living out in the sticks want faster limits to reduce their journey time.

                                Very high proportion of those voting etc.

                                The reason people live that way is for the quieter life and to be away from fast roads.

                                The lockdown escapees now regret their move and want to have faster roads so they can get back to places quicker.

                                Crazy suggestions, move back or adapt to what you signed up to.

                                  Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                                  Posted by Nev the bear on 10/5/2024, 8:26:30, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                                  Ok I did see the article was from Cambridgeshire the M11 is probably the worst motorway to increase a lot of it is two lanes

                                    Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits

                                    Posted by Cuba on 10/5/2024, 8:48:53, in reply to "Re: Increasing motorway and dual carriageway speed limits "

                                    Absolutely.

                                    If East Anglia was better connected it would be far busier and people would then complain about house prices and strain on resources.

                                    You pays your money and you make your choice.

                                    Both the A1 and M11 are not in any fit stake to be any faster. Ditto the A505, A11, A12 and A14.

                                    (Except the Tory “fast lanes” south of Peterborough…..)

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