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Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 14:45:10
Just seen a YouTube video of their new ground …it looks very decent and also looks like it will be ready for next season. Wish we were in a similar position ( only ground wise I hasten to add). I have always been behind having it in the town centre but it does bring its problems with the moving of the power station, the river etc. No idea on finances but wonder if we had chosen somewhere a bit easier if we could be playing there now.
Re: Everton stadium access
Posted by Town planner on 25/4/2024, 18:50:57, in reply to "Everton"
As below it seems a long way from being ready.
I said before access looks terrible as everyone has to come from the same direction – there’s water on two sides and some waterfront industrial sh!t on another.
Also the nearest train station (Sandhills) looks more like a busway stop. There’s plans for an upgrade but that could take years.
By contrast Power Court will have the best (non-car) access in the country. In between two major train stations, busway access, huge bus terminus and can even fly in and get the Dart.
But their access by boat is far better than ours....even with the River Lea opened up
Re: Everton
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 25/4/2024, 16:58:13, in reply to "Everton"
Blimey do keep up, Sweet said ages ago, that if they took the easy option of Junction 10, we would have been playing there for the last 5 seasons. No thank you!
Re: Everton
Posted by North Beds Hatter on 25/4/2024, 15:31:23, in reply to "Everton"
Looked like another big bowl to me. Goodison is a bit shit but at least it has character.
Re: Everton
Posted by Philthehatter on 25/4/2024, 15:03:33, in reply to "Everton"
I'd rather wait, been to enough out of town grounds to know its the last thing we want.
Re: Everton
Posted by Caught Jester on 25/4/2024, 16:12:29, in reply to "Re: Everton"
It’s no further ‘out of town’ than Goodison is. I walked past it, and into Liverpool city centre just over a month ago.
As an aside it’s nowhere near completion.
Re: Everton
Posted by Philthehatter on 26/4/2024, 8:18:15, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Yes I know, the opening posts suggests we should have built outside of Luton so to get it done quicker! Having to explain is boring!
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 15:05:01, in reply to "Re: Everton"
I know what you mean…obviously Everton’s doesn’t fit that description though.
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 14:53:48, in reply to "Everton"
It's not due to be open until 25/26 earliest and they don't have the finance to complete.
Being town centre is and always has been at the heart of the 2020 vision.
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 14:57:19, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Blimey it looks pretty close to being finished …if they don’t run out of money.
I know that and agree it preferable….just seems to be going on forever. When do you think we will be playing football @ Power Court ?
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 15:25:23, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Dunno, but a reasonable educated guess would be around the 25/26 26/27 mark? Build, I'm led to believe, will be quite rapid once groundworks are completed - and they're under way.
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 15:27:51, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Well the first date would be amazing but even 26/27 would be great..hope you are right.
Re: Everton
Posted by Sixties Fan on 25/4/2024, 17:21:53, in reply to "Re: Everton"
26/27 It's optimistic, I will go as far to say it is very optimistic. But whenever it does happen, it won't be soon enough. That's my opinion anyway. Hope I am proved wrong.
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 15:32:04, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Yes, first date ambitious admittedly. Second pretty doable. I think you know I'm quite tuned in on this through various channels - as far as I know there are no 'secret schedules' (there may be of course!) and the messages and vibe coming out is all upbeat and positive.
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 16:10:06, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Brilliant ….I know lots love Kenilworth Rd and I also have great memories but really keen to move now…at 6:1 my knees don’t bend like they did at 21 …😂😂 From what you are writing it feels a bit like under promise over deliver which imo is the way to go…
Re: Everton
Posted by Herts Hatter on 25/4/2024, 14:59:14, in reply to "Re: Everton"
we could play football on it now - it would be a great leveller - we might even get some home wins
Re: Everton
Posted by PC fan on 25/4/2024, 14:52:26, in reply to "Everton"
Ours is the first ground I've seen being built that doesn't have a completion date! How on earth can they plan financially if they don't know how long it's going to take to build?
Re: Everton
Posted by Farhat on 25/4/2024, 14:51:47, in reply to "Everton"
Somewhere a bit easier? Where?
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 14:59:33, in reply to "Re: Everton"
I don’t know ….obviously we had land @ Newlands but no funds to build. Guess we are better off funds wise now with the Premiership money…hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Re: Everton
Posted by Really on 25/4/2024, 15:01:19, in reply to "Re: Everton"
One story I heard was the only reason Newlands was sold was because some of the investors were tired of waiting and wanted their money back.
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 15:33:43, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Absolute and complete bollocks and 100% untrue.
If you know fuck all, why pretend you do?
Re: Everton
Posted by Really on 25/4/2024, 15:38:14, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Excuse me? I posted what I had heard and read several times on social media. At no point did I say I knew it to be fact. Rumours like that happen when things aren't made clear.
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 15:52:18, in reply to "Re: Everton"
If you say so: 'some of the investors were tired of waiting and wanted their money back' looks for all the world like spreading pernicious rumour to me.
Maybe the people behind such rumours have their own agendas - there are such still hovering around.
I do agree about clarity, though.
Re: Everton
Posted by Really on 25/4/2024, 16:01:24, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Expect more like it until real progress is seen and a completion date announced. Surely they have a date in mind. They seem content to just throw out an occasional note telling us of all the problems they have to overcome. By now one would have expected step by step dates when certain targets were to be reached. Instead the supporters are treated like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed on shit.
Re: Everton
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 25/4/2024, 16:19:54, in reply to "Re: Everton"
"By now one would have expected step by step dates when certain targets were to be reached"
Yeah, I can well imagine the shitstorm if one of those slipped by a day or two
Re: Everton
Posted by crumpsall on 25/4/2024, 16:16:30, in reply to "Re: Everton"
If you want to take that attitude, fine. Make your own life (in this aspect) a misery.
To be honest, looking at your previous posts you seem to have nothing positive to say. And this at a time when 2020 have massively overachieved success on the pitch and are delivering not just a new stadium but one in the heart of the community.
Fuck knows what you must have been like in the days of Lawrence and Kohler, the administrations and -30. Perhaps that suited you better.
Re: Everton
Posted by Really on 25/4/2024, 16:31:46, in reply to "Re: Everton"
It is really easy to sort. Announce an expected completion date. What's the problem with doing that?
Re: Everton
Posted by Big Tone on 25/4/2024, 17:02:29, in reply to "Re: Everton"
If they miss one of the dates, window lickers like you will stop watching animal porn for 2 mins to come on here and whinge about it.
Re: Everton
Posted by Really on 25/4/2024, 17:07:14, in reply to "Re: Everton"
I'm sorry. You seem to have mistakenly stepped into an adult conversation. It is a reasonable question. I'm not sure why it has to be some big secret?
Re: Everton
Posted by Big Tone on 25/4/2024, 17:09:12, in reply to "Re: Everton"
No need to apologise, there hasn't been an adult conversation on here since about 2007.
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 15:02:57, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Tbf they have been extremely patient and wouldn’t begrudge them one bit. However I believe the real reason was to raise funds for Power Court.
Re: Everton
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 25/4/2024, 15:28:57, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Newlands was never going to be the site for the ground. 2020 always made it clear they wanted the ground to be in the town centre, not on the edge.
Re: Everton
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 25/4/2024, 16:22:09, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Still get a few half-wits on Flouncebook claiming it would be a better site
Re: Everton
Posted by Curious on 25/4/2024, 16:19:36, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Why? It’s a crap hole.
Re: Everton
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 25/4/2024, 16:21:19, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Well you can go (if indeed you ever do) to Newlands then if you prefer
Re: Everton
Posted by Laststraw on 25/4/2024, 16:16:28, in reply to "Re: Everton"
They did make it clear after our supporters had been asked their opinion in a questionaire. Never fancied an out of town ground myself, after a hundred mile journey a further few miles to a god forsaken stadium was the last thing I wanted.
Re: Everton
Posted by The Questioner on 25/4/2024, 16:13:48, in reply to "Re: Everton"
Well it was originally ( I think) but not 2020’s plan. I know and agree it’s way better in the Town….my point was more if we had accepted second best (imo) we might have had a new stadium by now….glad we didn’t though.
Re: Everton
Posted by Herts Hatter on 25/4/2024, 14:56:33, in reply to "Re: Everton"
to my mind Junction 10 could work but with a Formula 1 track underneath - we could then have a raffle on who to start up front every match with the winner getting a free trip on the F1 track. How does that sound?
Re: Everton
Posted by Big Tone on 25/4/2024, 14:50:55, in reply to "Everton"
I'm a bit underwhelmed by it, maybe it will look better at night, that brickwork looks shite.
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