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Time for a reset
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 22/4/2024, 13:22:41
The Premier atm is a total mess, it has no “ control” at all and almost no jurisdiction over the so called big six.
Sky and its money control the game now .
Just look at this season.
For me it needs a fresh start from top to bottom.
For starters , I would clamp down and totally eradicate , players diving( or drawing the foul) I would book , and send off any players that crowd round a Refs decision .
So control of the game is then given back to the on field officials. Then get rid of VAR totally ( apart from Goal line decisions)…. the Coventry offside from yesterday, totally shows how wrong it’s being applied…. Yes Refs and Linos will get it wrong occasionally, but for me that has always been part of the game. FFP is joke, needs to applied ruthlessly and consistently. Same goes for ownership.( Everton and 777…. Really?)
Finally City’s 115 misdemeanours…… will anything happen…. Will it bolox
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Midnight Son on 22/4/2024, 16:28:29, in reply to "Time for a reset"
It's entertainment. Don't confuse it with old fashioned sport. The Premier League is the envy of the money- grabbing world.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by MG on 22/4/2024, 14:54:47, in reply to "Time for a reset"
Yes, I'd add to the first part that players obviously simulating injury / pain should also be booked.
The ref should watch the player's reaction and if the reaction indicated real pain or suggest inability to continue then they should have to go off to be assessed / treated.
I do wonder what will happen with City, by all accounts they are lawyered up to the hilt. Going to be tough to prosecute them.
As for VAR, it should be eliminated and those that came up with it put up against a wall and shot.
And Stuart Atwell should get a knighthood.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Finch on 22/4/2024, 14:38:17, in reply to "Time for a reset"
It's why I'm looking forward to the Championship next season.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Alien Nate on 22/4/2024, 13:42:47, in reply to "Time for a reset"
Can't argue with that RF. But we know money talks and we know they will carry on their own way, till fans vote with their feet. In an ideal world, all the rest of the clubs should boycott games that involves the big money teams.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/4/2024, 13:37:12, in reply to "Time for a reset"
The Cov goal was offside, nothing to do with how VAR was applied.
Before VAR, the linesmen would flag for anything that remotely looked offside. At least with VAR, they keep the flag down until play has progressed.
No doubt whatsoever, if there was no VAR the lino yesterday would have flagged offside.
Was the offside rule originally meant to be applied to millimeters, in the old days that would have been deemed level by any competent linesman. Yes a fraction of his boot was offside according to those lines, how thick or accurate those lines are is open to debate. A goal in the old days when football was better. Stanley Rous would be turning in his grave.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/4/2024, 14:43:45, in reply to "Re: Time for a reset"
You have a slightly different memory to me. I remember so many good goals being chalked off for offside because the lino gave the benefit of the doubt to the defending side.
"The Cov goal was offside, nothing to do with how VAR was applied"
Not quite true, the decision was made in relation to where the "offside" line is placed on the picture, the line is placed by one of the operators in accordance to when the ball is played forward, and the positioning of the final defender, once again all down to subjective interpretation. Nothing definitive about how the decision is made, which is why they are bringing in more technology to help with this next season.
"No doubt whatsoever, if there was no VAR the lino yesterday would have flagged offside."
More conjecture.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/4/2024, 14:33:43, in reply to "Re: Time for a reset"
Conjecture.....sure, but we've both watched enough games pre-VAR to know 99 times out of 100 the lino flags for the offside.
that's your opinion but no, we don't know that, not at all.
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Ronnies Finger on 22/4/2024, 13:58:45, in reply to "Re: Time for a reset"
But there’s my point, it’s killed the game by the very fact, a pretty good goal was celebrated, and 2 mins later ruled off.
How many games in a season does a VAR judgement take place with fans in Limbo , sometimes with decisions taking 5 or so minutes and Stockley Park watching in ultra slow time replays.
Look at Handball , defenders having to make tackles , with their arms tucked behind their back, surely that’s more “ unatural then how it used to be ( either intentional or unintentional)
Look at the extra time now being added, scoring a goal in the 85th minute…. Then still 20 mins to play.
I’ve always maintained if something offends common sense, then it’s usually wrong
The Common sense ship of the PL has long since sailed..
you're right about the handball for sure. The ones who say his hand was in an unnatural position have never played the game imo. Impossible to play with your hands by your side's like a penguin
Re: Time for a reset
Posted by Ramridge Raider on 22/4/2024, 14:15:08, in reply to "Re: Time for a reset"
My point is that VAR means the linos keep their flags down, particularly if its a tight call.
Previously many good goals were flagged offside by the linesmen who would always give the benefit of the doubt to the defending team. On the subject of offsides, I much prefer the VAR system, even if it takes a few minutes to make the correct call.
I'm not saying VAR is perfect, it's obviously not, but we can't just ignore the positive points.
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