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    Disappointed in the club

    Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 19/4/2024, 12:24:41

    Should've released a statement by now regarding the FA Cup.

    Come on Gary & 2020, why are you being silenced on this? Surely we would've voted against this so why not state it?

    Should the club release a statement
     Yes
     No
     

      Re: Disappointed in the club

      Posted by Farhat on 19/4/2024, 13:29:58, in reply to "Disappointed in the club "

      I contacted Fair Game yesterday (LTFC are members), they replied "We have asked this. And not a single Fair Game club has supported it.
      The noise has been one of unequivocal anger".

      Link: https://www.fairgameuk.org/press-releases/facupreplays

        Re: Disappointed in the club

        Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 19/4/2024, 13:39:37, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

        Thanks for this - not seen that.

          Re: Disappointed in the club

          Posted by RADSB on 19/4/2024, 13:39:13, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

          On the lost revenue, I know that the future of Cambridge United was secured by their replay with Man U a few years ago. Some of the money was used to build some hospitality facilities at the back of the Main Stand to help sustainability.

            Re: Disappointed in the club

            Posted by Hatters on 19/4/2024, 13:37:38, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

            Thanks for posting that. Not an organisation I knew much about and great to see us being apart of, looking at league position alone also the senior member.

              Re: Disappointed in the club

              Posted by sloopy on 19/4/2024, 13:40:37, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

              Bit of an unfortunate mistake there, i think you meant a part not apart

          Re: Disappointed in the club

          Posted by EastEnder on 19/4/2024, 13:10:29, in reply to "Disappointed in the club "

          Tbf if we speak out against our lords and masters, then Everton & Forest will be given enough points back to relegate us.

            Re: Disappointed in the club

            Posted by Godders on 19/4/2024, 14:02:13, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

            ...and they won't anyway?????

            Re: Disappointed in the club

            Posted by joey diconio on 19/4/2024, 12:57:01, in reply to "Disappointed in the club "

            I think you’re very much mistaken if you think the club have any interest in cup competitions

              Re: Disappointed in the club

              Posted by Sandgrounder on 19/4/2024, 13:11:10, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

              Didn’t we more or less play our first team in all our FA Cup games this season?

                Re: Disappointed in the club

                Posted by Sandgroundera on 19/4/2024, 13:11:35, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                Except Kaminski, obviously

                  Re: Disappointed in the club

                  Posted by joey diconio on 19/4/2024, 13:20:56, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                  When you turn up to play the world champions with a goalkeeper whose goalkeeping attributes now stretch to being “a top bloke” let’s not pretend we are trying to win a trophy

                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                    Posted by Sandgroundera on 19/4/2024, 14:06:45, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                    Would we have lost that game with Kaminski in goal - 99.9% certain we would.

                    Is Kaminski the most irreplaceable player at the club (considering who is in the squad) with the possible exception of Barkley - yes.

                    I wouldn’t have been that optimistic about the rest of the season if Kaminski had ‘done a Steer’ in the cup game.

                    The risk/reward for playing him in that game wasn’t in any way on the side of ‘reward’. Of course the solution would be to have a better back up keeper!

                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                      Posted by Buzzard on 19/4/2024, 14:39:52, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                      It was 1-2 at home when he played in the league.

                      So we whilst unlikely, we would have been more competitive than we were with Mr T rex arms

                Re: Disappointed in the club

                Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 19/4/2024, 13:03:58, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                What makes you say that out of interest, or do you mean just at this point in the season?

                  Re: Disappointed in the club

                  Posted by joey diconio on 19/4/2024, 13:12:43, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                  I can’t recall a time in the last 5 seasons we’ve gone full strength in a cup game

                Re: Disappointed in the club

                Posted by Big Tone on 19/4/2024, 12:55:15, in reply to "Disappointed in the club "

                Do us all a favour, go shite in a bucket and tell me how your wife's cooking tastes.

                She's probably so ugly no one would ride her into a battle.

                  Re: Disappointed in the club

                  Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 19/4/2024, 13:03:20, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                  try again.

                  'Big Tone'

                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                    Posted by Big Tone on 19/4/2024, 13:17:28, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                    Are you a lanky black geezer who loves birthday cakes, probably not?

                    I can smell the jealously on you for GS from here, a throbbing pain all up your spinal cord too.

                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                      Posted by Non-League Yaya Toure on 19/4/2024, 13:37:59, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                      You have zero clue.

                      Stop using your wife to write these replies they are poor and no more time wasted on you.

                      Put the record straight I'm a big fan of GS thanks.

                  Re: Disappointed in the club

                  Posted by Truth is on 19/4/2024, 12:32:31, in reply to "Disappointed in the club "

                  The only ones voting no are those that would still back Gary if he threw a hand grenade on the pitch during a game.

                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                    Posted by Oh bless on 19/4/2024, 12:55:41, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                    Are you voting multiple times using all your posting names?

                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                    Posted by MG on 19/4/2024, 12:46:20, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                    It's starting to get seriously embarrassing now, why not give it up?

                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                      Posted by Hatters on 19/4/2024, 12:54:48, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                      To be honest a little surprised at the number of people that think as a club we shouldn't be making a statement.

                        Re: Disappointed in the club

                        Posted by MG on 19/4/2024, 13:42:42, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                        I'd like us to come out and shout about it but it's really not that simple is it?

                        I'm surprised that there are people out there that simply can't wait to criticise at every opportunity and who try to make it into a big deal every time. When you set that against the incredible successes we have had and the way we have gone about it . . .

                        And no, that's not to say that everyone who complains about something is doing that but there are a few who clearly have an agenda.

                          Re: Disappointed in the club

                          Posted by Hatters on 19/4/2024, 14:03:34, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                          I do get that and sometimes you need to pick your battles and how you fight your battles.

                          But in this situation we could really use our current, very visible standing in the football world to put a very strong message across about how a lot of the footballing community, a somewhat unheard majority, feels about where the game is heading.

                          Through lots of hard work we are now in a position that we can make a lot noise, perhaps this is the moment for us to do this on behalf of the majority of smaller teams that don't have that reach

                          Re: Disappointed in the club

                          Posted by crumpsall on 19/4/2024, 13:09:49, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                          Maybe some people understand a) constraints put upon them as members of the EPL b) that there's obviously a bigger picture that hasn't come out and c) that the club fight the corner for the broader game at every opportunity - and probably deserve some respect for that?

                          But of course, there are people who simply love to have a go at them at every opportunity: club shop, tickets, way crowd works under the stands, replica shirts, price of food, betting ban - you name it, for some people everything 2020 do is crap

                          Fortunately such people are in a small minority.

                          I don't imagine for a moment that GS and co like this move or having our game controlled by UEFA, FIFA and a few fat cat clubs owned by states, sheiks, American investment funds and crooks

                            Re: Disappointed in the club

                            Posted by sloopy on 19/4/2024, 13:39:01, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                            And let's face it this club has had it's fair share of crooks in the past, not all of them obviously. And I will add that the 2020 Consortium are, by far, the best owners of our great club since I started going in 1964/65. Although I would add that at that time it was run by local businessmen, as many clubs were in those days

                              Re: Disappointed in the club

                              Posted by Lutoner on 19/4/2024, 13:26:17, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                              Agree with your post - but the club shop is really shit

                              Re: Disappointed in the club

                              Posted by Truth is on 19/4/2024, 13:16:12, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                              If you are correct and they don't like this move, how great would it be to be the first and probably only PL club to speak out against it. With not doing so, we look the same as all the other money driven self centred PL clubs.

                                Re: Disappointed in the club

                                Posted by Hatters on 19/4/2024, 13:31:22, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                My thoughts exactly, GS was correctly brave enough to come out and slate how the point reductions had been handled by the PL but not this? Unless of course we as a club, are for the scrapping of replays? as Joey says above it nots like we have treated the competition with much respect over recent years. who knows?

                                  Re: Disappointed in the club

                                  Posted by Music Critic on 19/4/2024, 13:39:17, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                  GS was correctly brave enough to come out and slate how the point reductions had been handled by the PL

                                  And he got criticised for doing that. On here and elsewhere. Probably by the same people who are now moaning that he hasn't said anything about the Cup replay issue

                                  No pleasing some

                                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                                    Posted by Ches Fordroad on 19/4/2024, 13:54:48, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                    "And he got criticised for doing that. On here and elsewhere. Probably by the same people who are now moaning that he hasn't said anything about the Cup replay issue"

                                    Fucking bullseye

                                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                                      Posted by Hatters on 19/4/2024, 13:49:19, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                      I personally don't give a toss what the trolls on here or the world of social media say, and I suspect GS doesn't either.

                                      GS rightly raised his objection to what was going on regards financial fair play.
                                      Is this the right strategy for all circumstances almost certainly not but there are moments when as a club we should stand up for what is right, regardless of what league we are in, pick our battles, this imo is one of those situations,

                                      "Stay Humble, stay luton. None of that 'Billy big bollocks' shit" remember?

                                        Re: Disappointed in the club

                                        Posted by Music Critic on 19/4/2024, 13:57:29, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                        I'm not saying he, or you, give a shit either way. Wasn't my point at all

                                        I'm just saying that a lot of the people moaning about him saying something on the points issue are likely the same people moaning that he has/the club have been silent on the replays issue

                                        Just like they'd have been moaning if he'd stayed silent on the points issue and vocal on the replays issue

                                        I call it 'Doing a Borino'

                                          Re: Disappointed in the club

                                          Posted by Ches Fordroad on 19/4/2024, 14:00:11, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                          "Doing a Borino"



                                          Superb!!!

                                    Re: Disappointed in the club

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 19/4/2024, 13:28:17, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                    Do you really, honestly not understand why they can't? Seriously? No idea how organisations like the PL work, or comprehension of the constraints? Or how 2020 buck the trend every way they can against modern football?

                                    Look at the hysteria surrounding Sweet's interview about points deductions - including, I'd bet my last penny, some of the people slating him for this.

                                    Perhaps you're one of those 'I don't see why I can't sing what I want and fuck the consequences' types? Fortunately Sweet and co have more sense - perhaps because they have to suffer those consequences. And maybe ditto this situation.

                                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                                      Posted by Truth is on 19/4/2024, 13:44:22, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                      What consequences?

                                        Re: Disappointed in the club

                                        Posted by crumpsall on 19/4/2024, 13:57:53, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                        Losing any bargaining power or say in what happens with the EPL, EFL, governance etc?

                                        As it stands I understand (from the best sources) that GS argues the case lucidly for a fairer game within the committees etc of the PL and at least gives proper football a voice. But like every single business I've ever known or heard about, some of that has to be done in-house or you're silenced.

                                        For clarity: I absolutely detest these changes and am convinced there's more to this than meets the eye


                                      Re: Disappointed in the club

                                      Posted by Alien Nate on 19/4/2024, 13:41:50, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                      I get what you are saying. But what is the worst thing that can happen if the club speak up. Relegation? I don't think that would look good for PL.

                                        Re: Disappointed in the club

                                        Posted by sloopy on 19/4/2024, 13:45:34, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                        It could be argued that in essence that is exactly what is happening now, with the way they are dealing with Everton and Forest points deductions

                                          Re: Disappointed in the club

                                          Posted by Alien Nate on 19/4/2024, 13:48:49, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                          All the more reason to just speak up. Go down, win the EFL and back with a smile. 😅

                                            Re: Disappointed in the club

                                            Posted by sloopy on 19/4/2024, 13:52:17, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                            In reply I refer to the Right Honourable member from Crumpshall

                                              Re: Disappointed in the club

                                              Posted by sloopy on 19/4/2024, 13:54:09, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                              Also, sometimes it is right and proper to speak out and others to keep the old gob firmly shut

                                Re: Disappointed in the club

                                Posted by Truth is on 19/4/2024, 12:56:29, in reply to "Re: Disappointed in the club "

                                Agree. MG above no doubt voted that way.

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