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    Comment by Forest

    Posted by The Outsider on 18/3/2024, 19:04:40

    We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

    Also, this bit is interesting - not seen it mentioned elsewhere.

    That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

      Re: Comment by Forest

      Posted by r p mcmurphy on 18/3/2024, 19:27:00, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

      Somewhere in deepest Suffolk Ed Sheeran now working out what may be possible next season +÷ etc

        Re: Comment by Forest

        Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 18/3/2024, 19:15:46, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

        As I understood it, Premier League said that Everton got 6, and Forest's offence was worse so they should get 8.

        But the Commission said that 3 of Everton's 6 was probably the additional penalty for non-cooperation (apparently the Everton appeal panel wasn't very clear about this). So Forest commission assumed the "offence" part of Everton's penalty was only 3 points. They used the same logic as the PL (Forest were naughtier so should get a stronger starting punishment than Everton), but used a lower baseline (only comparing the Forest penalty to 3 points of Everton's punishment rather than the whole 6).

          Re: Comment by Forest

          Posted by The Outsider on 18/3/2024, 19:20:59, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

          So, you get an extra three points deducted for not cooperating but a reduction of two if you do cooperate so a net reduction of five for cooperating. Surely it can only be extra for not cooperating or fewer for cooperating, not both.

            Re: Comment by Forest

            Posted by Brko's Bicycle on 18/3/2024, 19:25:17, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

            It's truly bizarre.

            My suspicion is that it might be a cloak and dagger way to officially explain away an off the record plea deal where Forest have agreed not to appeal so this doesn't drag on.

              Re: Comment by Forest

              Posted by The Outsider on 18/3/2024, 19:29:48, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

              There were certainly rumours that it might be four with no right of appeal. Maybe, they couldn't do that and it was an agreement that they won't appeal but I will reserve judgement until the appeal period is over.

              If that is the case, Everton will probably get a very mild punishment on the same basis.

                Re: Comment by Forest

                Posted by Godders on 18/3/2024, 19:27:50, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                I'm beginning to think along such lines. Nothing else really makes sense when thinking it through.

                  Re: Comment by Forest

                  Posted by Shutupya on 18/3/2024, 19:27:25, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                  That's what I heard ... 4 as long as you promise no appeal

                  League running scared of a single team

              Re: Comment by Forest

              Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 18/3/2024, 19:14:42, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

              I did wonder what the Premier League were asking for and it is interesting that Forest are addressing that in their comment today. Trying to snuff out a PL appeal presumably.

                Re: Comment by Forest

                Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 18/3/2024, 19:14:42, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

                What unique circumstances would they be then? Sounds like the sort of bllx a lawyer would dream up.

                  Re: Comment by Forest

                  Posted by Roo on 18/3/2024, 19:11:39, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

                  This kind of shit is why I really want us to stay up.

                  To show everyone that you can do it without pissing £100m on a bunch of mercenaries and that having a decent scouting team and spending sensibly is another possible way of doing it.

                    Re: Comment by Forest

                    Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 18/3/2024, 19:21:28, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                    Spot on, hopefully this travesty will create a siegr mentality

                      Re: Comment by Forest

                      Posted by The Outsider on 18/3/2024, 19:24:58, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                      Hopefully, it won't create one for Forest. Everton picked up, initially, after their original penalty.

                      Re: Comment by Forest

                      Posted by The Outsider on 18/3/2024, 19:13:43, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                      +2020

                        Re: Comment by Forest

                        Posted by Godders on 18/3/2024, 19:12:51, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"

                        Absolutely bloody well said!!!!

                        Re: Comment by Forest

                        Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 19:07:27, in reply to "Comment by Forest"

                        Still don't know how football has suddenly decided that obvious cheating is less of an offence than going into admin

                        It's just a weird take

                          Re: Comment by Forest

                          Posted by Homer on 18/3/2024, 19:32:50, in reply to "Re: Comment by Forest"


                          Wait Neverton are on the brink if 777 get refused.
                          777 will recall their £200million loan and administration for the bin dippers neverton.
                          Then the PL will bottle that decision as well....
                          They'll set up.a committee
                          The committee will take weeks if not months to decide
                          Neverton will escape again....

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