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About the 4 ..
Posted by Pointsworth on 18/3/2024, 15:55:18
Would it have been a 6 point deduction if they had beat us on Saturday?
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by HH on 18/3/2024, 16:02:35, in reply to "About the 4 .."
Prob an iceberg - I'm not entirely sure of the context, but people on twitter are posting the comission's verdict to what I assume is Everton and they state 6 points is the minimum sanction to achieve PSR.'
What changed?
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by hatters1988 on 18/3/2024, 16:47:31, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Nothing, much like VAR its implemented by fecking eejits
They set a new precedent every time.......but this time they really really REALLY mean it.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:08:01, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
An absolute fiasco
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:00:46, in reply to "About the 4 .."
+1
Absolutely pathetic from the Prem
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by sloopy on 18/3/2024, 15:59:28, in reply to "About the 4 .."
That is exactly what I said to my son about 20 minutes ago
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Flash on 18/3/2024, 16:03:01, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
About the minimum they can give. Trying to puput them off appealing. Remember on any appeal the appeal committee could increase the 4 points.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:06:04, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Remember on any appeal the appeal committee could increase the 4 points.
Is that true? I mean, even if it is, I can't see them increasing it but interesting if that is true. That's what the Prem should say - you can appeal but the deduction might go up as well as down on appeal
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Trainspotter on 18/3/2024, 16:16:25, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Can we not appeal on leniency and as I said under a earlier heading protest by refusing any away support. Become intimidating and swamp ground with flags slating cheats and and premier association. No more mister nice guys.
You can deregister all 25 players in January transfer window, and register 25 new players.
But you have to do it by the end of the January transfer window
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 18/3/2024, 17:07:05, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Fuck that - let's just do it, then fess up to it and "co-operate"
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 18/3/2024, 16:10:48, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
As is repeated every time one of these decisions is made, it is an independent panel sitting and adjudicating. The league are basically prosecuting.
Any appeal could result in an increase or decrease in 'punishment'.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:12:17, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
An increase will NEVER happen even if it is within their gift
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 18/3/2024, 16:20:53, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Let's see how it plays out. You would imagine the PL will appeal...
I did hear, for all that counts, a couple of times in the last week, that it would be four points with no appeal. Which seems strange with how regulated the whole process is.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Toddingtonsteve on 18/3/2024, 16:18:24, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
But it could and that may defer them. Given their fixture list vs ours they might just swallow it (or already have negotiated an agreed level). If were still within 3 points of them going into the final 5 games then its possible, though that is going to be very difficult
So obvious they've say down and worked out exactly how much they can give them and make sure they stay up, probably used one of those prediction programs
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Flash on 18/3/2024, 16:15:33, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Everton fans going barmy.
They get 6 points deducted for essentially building a new stadium
Forest get 4 points deducted for buying a new team.
Everton fans are completely delusional. It's nothing to do with the stadium. It's also nothing to do with Russia's war if they are bringing that up again. (Although the latter has much more to do with why they have no money now)
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:21:00, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
I can understand Everton fans being angry but them using the stadium argument is wrong
Infrastructure spend does not count to PSR. I think they claimed something about a loan related to the stadium being included but that money ended up being used to run the football side of things
Everton fans should focus on the fact that, for the same offence, they were deducted 10. Ok it was reduced but why did they get 10 and Forest only 4?
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by AI Bot on 18/3/2024, 16:18:08, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Probably get their 6 reduced to 4 or 2 then based on proceedings so far, wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Pointsworth on 18/3/2024, 16:36:29, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Thinking about it
Evertons original deduction was 10 points before being reduced to 6
What IF its all really about the second Everton deduction?
With Forest getting 4 it means Everton could get 4 for the next one thus putting them back up to the original 10 !
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Music Critic on 18/3/2024, 16:22:31, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Don't think that's possible. Everton's 1st case is closed now
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by AI Bot on 18/3/2024, 16:24:39, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
Still wouldn't surprise me, sure they can find a reason if they pretend hard enough.
No Everton got 6 points for being a complete basket case.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by sloopy on 18/3/2024, 16:14:52, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
I can think of one time they would increase it on appeal. If it was Luton.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by Flash on 18/3/2024, 16:29:53, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
You can't appeal anything that has been negotiated !
I have always thought in situations like these all interested parties should be allowed to intervene in these proceedings to ensure fair play and the potential effect these decisions have on others.
Re: About the 4 ..
Posted by DLT1885 on 18/3/2024, 16:42:02, in reply to "Re: About the 4 .."
I think Forest will win the appeal and get 6 points added back on. The divots in charge are to thick to realise that Forest are then 2 points better off than when they started.
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