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Power Court
Posted by Don’t shoot the messenger on 20/1/2024, 11:39:56
Attended a Willmott Dixon seminar in which Michael Moran gave a talk about Power Court, apparently work is starting on moving the substation but this will take up to a year before ‘spades go in the ground’ and the actual work starts on building the stadium. According to MM we are looking at playing our first game there in Summer 27.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Sandgrounder on 20/1/2024, 12:59:43, in reply to "Power Court"
I would absolutely bite your hand off for the first game in Power Court to be in summer 2027. It’s long been the most likely date for the new stadium opening, I hope they manage to hit it.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 14:11:09, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Absolutonly.
Anyone pissing their pants about it not being sooner needs to have a word with themselves.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 14:19:54, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
How old are you Jimmy?
I am a little disappointed that I may only get 10-15 years max watching at PC.
Bearing in mind we were talking about moving in 1983, probably even before then.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 15:27:29, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yeah, I'm gutted we didn't move in 1983.
We could've been celebrating 40 years in Milton Keynes now if we had.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 16:04:33, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Whoosh, missed the point (yet) again.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 14:36:19, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I'm 50. We've been trying to move since the 50s, as far as I understand it. Happy to be corrected, of course.
I'm more concerned that PC will actually happen and be the absolute best we can manage than it being built before 2027. 2027 would be absolutely, fucking, brilliant.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by Would on 20/1/2024, 16:34:57, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
You be brave enough to go?
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 16:59:36, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
No, I'm shit scared of cunts who are so tough they can even gob off, anonymously, on the internet.
Fucking terrifying.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by DS on 20/1/2024, 19:00:21, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yes I’ve noticed you gobshite snide.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 19:07:19, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yeah, how snide of me to post under the same name I've been using for twenty odd years and by which you could, if you wanted, find out who I am. Eh, DS, who until just now has posted exactly, fucking, once. In order to say this:
Posted by Beer hat on 20/1/2024, 17:05:38, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Pub tonight Jim?
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 17:07:15, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
It was mooted but, no. I have beer on its way, though. Could get here a bit quicker, tbh.
You?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by Beer hat on 20/1/2024, 17:12:56, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
👍👍.
Yes, mate. Myself and the Mrs are having a night in colchester, so a few beers And a curry later
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 18:04:06, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Nice, where are you going?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by Beer hat on 20/1/2024, 18:32:30, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Greyfriars hotel.
A pub crawl, then an Indian. Been here a couple of times. Loads of history in colchester.
Just going out now. Have a good evening jimmy 👍🍺
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 18:57:27, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
That there is and you're in a nice spot.
Don't know much about the High St boozers but I'd avoid the Goat and Boot. It's weird and the beer's crap. Three Wise Monkeys is alright and has a gin bar downstairs. Maharani's decent, opposite TWM and on your way back to your hotel. We usually end up in the Purple Dog which is alright.
Probably steer clear of North Station Road, full of chavs but if you insist Curry Leaves is very decent but they do a LOT of takeaway business so you waiting staff aren't super attentive. Basically order your next beer as the deliver one and you'll be fine. The lamb chops are fucking awesome.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by At a guess on 20/1/2024, 18:09:56, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Colchester?
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 18:26:51, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Oh right, so to the ONE pub and ONE curry house in the greater Colchester area, yeah.
You stupid, fucking, cunt.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by Bootin on 20/1/2024, 15:55:01, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Agreed. But I am very optimistic that it will happen.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 14:52:22, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Thanks.
So what I don’t get is why there is a doubt it will happen.
Surely the location is secure and it’s the work required that is still delaying us?
But with a lack of updates then I guess it’s meaning too many interpret negatively.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 15:02:28, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
You seem to be the one doubting on this thread.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 15:09:10, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Certainly not the only one asking a few fair questions and I didn’t start then thread in the first place.
All I have for is some more clarification on progress.
My primary concern is for the gaps in the playing squad.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Hatsworth2nd on 20/1/2024, 13:12:53, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
It was bad enough being the first visitors to reading back in 1998 at their new stadium after the kohlerdome rejection previously. 25 years later still no spade in the ground! You kind of wonder if you will live long enough to see it.. I reckon 2030 will be the year it happens.
Re: Power Court
Posted by mmee on 20/1/2024, 13:05:49, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Agreed.
While the club continue to not update us on the project, who knows what to believe though.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Mick Hardford on 20/1/2024, 12:52:06, in reply to "Power Court"
Oh, I don’t know if we can survive in the Premier League till summer 27! 🤞🏼
Re: Power Court
Posted by Mick Hardford on 20/1/2024, 12:51:53, in reply to "Power Court"
Oh, I don’t know if we can survive in the Premier League till summer 27! 🤞🏼
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 15:58:40, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
You can say that again.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Andy Cappuccino on 20/1/2024, 12:40:49, in reply to "Power Court"
If true, why is Michael Moran's chosen medium of communication a Wilmott Dixon (whoever they are) seminar?
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ja on 20/1/2024, 15:24:26, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Doubt Wilmott Dixon would be the main contractor , or would it be them just moving power station
Re: Power Court
Posted by Lutonthru&thru on 20/1/2024, 18:02:07, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Brentford’s stadium was built by Ecoworld which is part owned by Willmott Dixon.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Doctor Ince on 20/1/2024, 14:58:42, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I can well believe it.
I don't know if it was a more general speech he was giving or one more specific to Power Court, but I can see that kind of thing being mentioned.
2020 tell us the bare minimum now anyway so it's not like that's the kind of thing we'd expect in programme notes
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 16:00:32, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Power Court will never happen, we all know that. Gary Sweat has not been in the Brickies lately.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 13:45:36, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Good point. They're builders/developers.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Lutonthru&thru on 20/1/2024, 18:16:49, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Posted by crumpsall on 20/1/2024, 12:52:03, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Not often I agree with you but that sounds questionable to say the least. Very odd and not in keeping with the way 2020 usually work.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Pork Pie Spotter on 20/1/2024, 12:32:06, in reply to "Power Court"
You seriously expect us to believe Moran said that? 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Power Court
Posted by Don’t shoot the messenger on 20/1/2024, 12:42:34, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I’m just relaying what he said, I don’t have an agenda and whether you believe me or not is of no consequence to me.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 12:20:03, in reply to "Power Court"
I understand that work on the stadium can happen at the same time as work on the substation - as the substation is not on Stadium land but on land where some flats will be built. The clip below is from the original planning application which doesn't rule it out. If the orientation of the stadium alters that may put it over the substation. Also H&S may restrict part of it - do I recall one new stadium was built with one corner vastly incomplete due to some sort of hold up of this nature - can't recall which one.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Strider on 20/1/2024, 14:20:00, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
The relocated sub station is not on land identified for any flats RADSD. It is on the Crawley Green Road frontage between the Busway and what used to be the road to houses in Pondswick Road, leading to one of Kent’s sites.
Re: Power Court
Posted by The Outsider on 20/1/2024, 11:42:42, in reply to "Power Court"
A year to move the substation is what has been said all along. It is a massive job.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:11:37, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
A massive job that was barely mentioned at the beginning. Why? 5 years since planning was given and what's to show for it? A car park. And a nice fat bonus for the geezer that hasn't delivered.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Bored in Flitwick on 20/1/2024, 12:45:01, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
That geezer been coining it in for years..lot of chat no action..just protecting investors bonus
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 13:48:28, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yeah, if only a geezer like you, with your experience and skills had been available at the time there was a vacancy
Re: Power Court
Posted by crumpsall on 20/1/2024, 13:00:42, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Hmm. Club up from Conference to Premier League, new ground on the way (which it is) 'lot of chat, no action'? You're either incredibly stupid, desperate for attention, or both. I reckon both.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 13:50:10, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Definitely both
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 13:03:03, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
100% agree. Most thankfully are not quite as blatantly and unnecessarily critical.
But we are overdue some news .
Re: Power Court
Posted by crumpsall on 20/1/2024, 13:15:57, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I would certainly appreciate more info and have raised this both directly with GS and indirectly through LTST/LLSC but am equally 100% certain, for that reason, that all is well with the project.
I find it very strange that MM would be speaking about it, knowing well how 2020 operate, but maybe it is a question of interpretation.
I'm also extremely dubious about the 'new name' posters who have appeared of late seeming to want to undermine GS/2020/PC.
Others express genuine and reasonable concerns of course.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 13:18:35, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Who gains from undermining 2020 though? Surely the Bushwood lot are all long since gone?
Most on here are looking forward to a new ground and have been for 40 years.
We just want some official updates and put this conjecture to bed.
Re: Power Court
Posted by crumpsall on 20/1/2024, 13:22:07, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I don't know who, but I certainly know they exist. And I have well founded suspicions. There are also some very strange characters with no connection with Luton who have been 'at this' for years. I'll not go into either of those points on here, so you'll have to decide yourself whether to take my word on it.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ltfc39 on 20/1/2024, 13:32:21, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I think your suspicions are generally well founded, however I think some people would like to see a little more dialogue on the subject. It has been very quiet it feels for the last 9-12 months, especially as announcements of announcements have not come to fruition. I kind of hoped at the start of last season we'd be in a position not to be using the Power Court car park each matchday.
Every project has problems - this will be no exception. When the plans first came out in 2016(?), I felt that the project was one of the most ambitious for any football club in the whole country. Gradually that plan has had to be rightly scaled back as economic forces have dictated.
I think it would be wrong to have 2020 above criticism - I don't think that helps anyone, even themselves. Like any competition, it keeps people on their toes and striving for constant improvement.
I don't think much of said criticism is merited and would say over 17 years they have done a tremendous job. However, I would say its a fair to say that "off the pitch" matters have not necessarily kept apace with what's been going on the field. This isn't exactly surprising considering a meteoric rise in recent years and the workload in itself has probably made such an improvement difficult to implement.
Re: Power Court
Posted by mmee on 20/1/2024, 14:09:32, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Great post
Re: Power Court
Posted by crumpsall on 20/1/2024, 19:50:17, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Seconded
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 12:25:16, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
If it was just 2020 building the stadium then yes, arses need kicking. But as you well know, delays can/have been caused by others involved - LBC, UKNG, C&R and varous other arseholes. The envoroment agency took 4 months to produce their views on the substation which 2020 answered within 14 days. Plus Covid, the economy etc.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:31:10, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
It's just excuse after excuse though isn't it? Most big builds run into problems but 5 years and absolutely nothing to show is very poor form. And to reward GS such a vast amount when there is a clear lack of progress at PC is questionable to say the least.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 12:51:03, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Ah, it's envy driving your comments. GS get's the going rate for CEO's in the PL. No, I'm not providing a link, look it up yourself.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:55:44, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
No, not envy at all. Are you unable to have an open conversation on the subject without getting personal? We are all allowed our opinions. We all know what an amazing job our custodians have done but they are not above being questioned, especially given the time scales of PC.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 13:51:38, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
"Are you unable to have an open conversation on the subject without getting personal?"
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:11:37, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
A massive job that was barely mentioned at the beginning. Why? 5 years since planning was given and what's to show for it? A car park. And a nice fat bonus for the geezer that hasn't delivered.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 13:07:56, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Start making sense then. I set out some of the problems PC has faced in my 12.25 post which you called "just excuse after excuse." But you then say "5 years and absolutely nothing to show is very poor form" which indicates you have been following PC progress. Why is it poor form exactly?
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ches Fordroad on 20/1/2024, 17:55:34, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
We need to go to MK, ground share with the MK Dons. Gary Sweat is an idiot if he doesn’t look at this option. Maybe it suits him to play the waiting game.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 17:57:40, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Fake Ches.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 13:12:59, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Why is it poor form? Seriously? I think I've made my points on the subject clear in previous posts. 5 years since planning and a car park to show for it is poor form. The increased development and money spent on KR suggests we're a long way from PC. There's been little to no updates and when finally one comes along it's not even 2020 giving it!!
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 13:29:40, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Ah, and there was me thinking that the development and money spent on KR was to comply with PL requirements.
What's your usual posting name and why aren't you using it?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 13:32:36, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
The safe standing in the Oak Road has nothing to do with PL requirements.
Re: Power Court
Posted by boz on 20/1/2024, 13:43:54, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
he didnt say it did, you just made that up as you have been doing for god knows how long trying to stir shit
Re: Power Court
Posted by Ltfc39 on 20/1/2024, 13:43:10, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
It could be taken with the club to the new stadium however. A lot like much of the infrastructure investment this summer.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 13:42:07, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Doesn't make the compelling argument you implied when you refer to it, specifically, does it.
Usual posting name?
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by boz on 20/1/2024, 13:46:29, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
yep, i know who it is
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 13:21:05, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I'll try once more then I'll give up. I'll ask again - what exactly has made the PC progress poor form? It's likely you won't answer that so how about answering - why you think Covid is just an excuse?
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 13:30:53, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I've answered your questions several times. Again, you seem unable to have a civil conversation on the matter. You are literally going round in circles to create an argument. Is it any wonder so many people have stopped posting on here?
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 13:50:58, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
It's you going round in circles, and not taking into account any of the events of the last 4/5 years.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 14:45:16, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
You either haven't read my posts on this thread or are just choosing to ignore the points I have raised. What are your thoughts on the only meaningful update has come from someone that is not part of 2020? Its good that there is a bit of news but not great PR from the club that updates are coming from elsewhere.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 14:49:45, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
To be completely accurate, the 'update' is what someone has posted on here. Whether they're genuine and it's a faithful representation of what they claim to have been told is yet to be established.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by boz on 20/1/2024, 13:44:48, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
no, you have an agenda, i know now who you are
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 13:00:18, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yes agreed, those with a different view are always shouted down and often insulted.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 13:23:34, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
To be completely fair, it's usually because they're clearly complete and utter cretins, spouting completely stupid bollocks, like Bored in Flitwick or patently gobshites with an axe to grind, like H.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 13:35:24, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Absolutely no axe to grind.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 14:02:17, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Sure, genuine concerns like the new names ALWAYS have.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 14:09:21, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Funny that, isn't it? Almost as if it's one person using different names.
Re: Power Court
Posted by boz on 20/1/2024, 13:32:49, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
spot on.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:29:16, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
The “economy”????
Bearing in mind the strong Blue rinse brigade on here I would question what you mean by that?
14 years and all that.
Re: Power Court
Posted by MG on 20/1/2024, 12:30:55, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Okay stop now, surely you don't need to have it explained how the plans have been impacted by economic factors over these recent year?
Re: Power Court
Posted by RADSB on 20/1/2024, 12:47:31, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Deliberately misunderstanding and wanting an explanation on everything seems to have trended on here a lot lately.
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:37:40, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Yet other clubs have managed to get grounds built?
Re: Power Court
Posted by MG on 20/1/2024, 12:40:02, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Like Everton are doing you mean?
Re: Power Court
Posted by H on 20/1/2024, 12:48:33, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
The way they're doing things is very different to us. From what I've read they're taking big gambles financially. But they are progressing. Unlike ourselves. And the rumour that selling Newlands so a few of the investors could have their money back as they were sick of the lack of progress is now quite believable.
Re: Power Court
Posted by ELH on 20/1/2024, 13:30:20, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Are they progressing? Or have they just got a partially built stadium and no money to finish it?
Re: Power Court
Posted by MG on 20/1/2024, 13:23:26, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I can't help what random rumours you choose to believe of course but I am sure you can outline at least some kind of reasonable source or factual basis for it . . .
But you've hit the nail on the head, they are progressing because they are doing it in a hugely risky way. It might pay off for them, it could cause them to crash down the leagues like so many have done in the past. At the moment, their future doesn't look anywhere near as assured as ours.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:50:29, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Again lack of clarity, why can’t we all be honest on this situation?
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:36:29, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Idealogical decisions sir.
Brexit, PPE “Mone” and money to Rwanda.
None were necessary.
All have impacted the economy but supported by the majority on here.
Even the good guys.
Re: Power Court
Posted by The weather man on 20/1/2024, 12:55:26, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Brexit!! That’s a lame excuse because both Labour Party and the conservatives never wanted Brexit and never give us Brexit all they did is bend over for the globalist deep state that owns them. See how you can’t see the real problem (lockdown) the globalist destroying the economy for a fake pandemic (different flu) kill you they destroyed everything. Look who made money!!! It was the lockdown that destroyed the world economic (AGENDA 2030. I can’t believe you don’t see it.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Nearly a Genius on 20/1/2024, 13:55:51, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Blimey!!
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 13:01:21, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Vote Reform then!?
Re: Power Court
Posted by MG on 20/1/2024, 12:41:26, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Well I certainly didn't support any of that or any of the other corrupt ways this country's money has been squandered.
But supply chain issues, inflation, other cost pressures, labour availability etc etc, for a project that hadn't kicked off yet they were very significant factors.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:43:41, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Nor did I and you are 100% correct on those issues.
But a lot did and Brexit alone has done more than anything to contribute to delays and the inflationary pressures.
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:15:29, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
This is the problem with not being transparent.
Sweet has to be answer these questions.
Nobody is ungrateful for what he has done but none of us are fools.
Just tell the truth.
No “BBB” he said in May, but a huge bonus and a week in Dubai when we should be adding strength to the team.
Re: Power Court
Posted by In all honesty on 20/1/2024, 12:30:28, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
You are an absolutely clueless cunt Cuba
Re: Power Court
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 12:37:44, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Thanks.
As soon as anyone asks a question that is the response.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 14:13:59, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Demonstrably not the case.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by MG on 20/1/2024, 12:10:59, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
I actually thought they said two but that some work could happen in parallel. I suppose it partly depends on what routes the cables take across the site.
Re: Power Court
Posted by jimmyp on 20/1/2024, 11:45:52, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Indeed. Which is also not to say that work can't go on around it.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Power Court
Posted by clarky on 20/1/2024, 11:55:05, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Its all gotta bit silly this
Re: Power Court
Posted by Madpig on 20/1/2024, 11:55:02, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Fair point there😁
Re: Power Court
Posted by pingu on 20/1/2024, 11:47:16, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
i reckon youre right mate.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Don’t shoot the messenger on 20/1/2024, 11:49:14, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
They are undergoing soil tests re contamination but the actual build according to MM won’t start before this time next year.
Re: Power Court
Posted by Alhatter on 20/1/2024, 11:52:56, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
At least it is and will happen, that’s good enough for me.
Fair enough — so spend a bit more on the squad
Posted by RE Dentist on 20/1/2024, 11:52:25, in reply to "Re: Power Court"
Relegation without strengthening a little PLUS another year to wait won’t go down well.
Main surprise is why we haven’t been honest with fans about this all the way along.
Re: Fair enough — so spend a bit more on the squad
Maybe but also a lot of people who have taken at face value the lack of investment in the team (“because of Power Court”), but also see some investment being required to give us a decent chance of survival.
Another year in the Premier League set against another years delay on the ground cancels the disappointment out.
Re: Fair enough — so spend a bit more on the squad
We have a decent chance of survival, Cuba. We're not going to sign players that we wouldn't be able to afford without the PL money, it's just that simple.
Apparently the funding was in place for Power Court, anyway. The PL money, however, guarantees it and hopefully pays our investors back a little of what they've put in.
I'd also like to think that it will be used to pay for the 'nice to have' features that we would otherwise have to have done without. But I'm not going to spend each and every day pissing my pants about it.
Cheers, Jim
Re: Fair enough — so spend a bit more on the squad
The money needs to be spent on the ground, this is likely a one-off windfall that's not to be repeated so the money will be held until needed rather than spunked on players.
Even if we spent say 20 million on those four players you want then it wouldn't even come close to a guarantee of surviving relegation.
Re: Fair enough — so spend a bit more on the squad
Speculate to accumulate . . . no, that's just not what we're about. It's the wrong approach, as countless clubs have proved in the past. Keep that money in place to guarantee the stadium build, to take risks is to endanger it further. If any club has learned the hard way that building sensibly is the only way forwards then surely it's us.
Oh of course I agree on that part. You can't lose Lockyer and Nakamba without it weakening the squad.
But blowing millions on new players to give us a slightly better chance of staying up? It could work of course but as with most gambles that's not the most likely outcome.
So you don’t try at all having lost two key players?
It’s going to be pretty grim on here in May should we go down, have no sign of a ground and our better players moving on (having been out of contract).
We must do more to at least give ourselves a chance and stop using the ground as an excuse.
Who said anything about giving up and not trying? I'm sure we are doing everything reasonable.
But you really don't get it if you don't think that securing the new ground, however long that takes, has to be the absolute priority. If we blow this opportunity, it may simply never come again.
The ground is secured I trust. However it’s a complex process and putting dates on it was always likely to bite us. The lack of recent updates are poor. We should be updated even it’s bad news.
I do hope we have plans to strengthen, I’d be happier if we do something over the next week and don’t go into the Brighton game relying on late deals.
We need to beat Brighton and I think we can but we are so vulnerable in key areas.
Only a couple of the summer signings have really come up to the right standard and clearly spending £9m on Giles and Mads hasn’t worked out well.
We can’t rely on Burnley and Sheff United to stay on a poorer run than us.
If we end up bottom it doesn’t benefit us if Everton or Forest lose points.
We have to increase our points per game ratio immediately.
Re: “Now vulnerable”
Posted by Oakley hatter on 20/1/2024, 13:42:44, in reply to "Re: “Now vulnerable”"
When we get our new stadium some of these people will still moan they dont appreciate anything the board have done.If i was Gary Sweet would keep quiet for the rest of the season about power court.You dont hear anyone at matches being negative at all.
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