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    Farridge

    Posted by Solngen Hatter on 13/5/2019, 20:51:11

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/13/andrew-marrs-obsession-past-betrays-bias-heart-bbc/

    No Nigel, its because you're a gobshite and you've been found out.

      Re: Farridge

      Posted by Shat on 14/5/2019, 8:01:12, in reply to "Farridge"

      Yep leading a new party to win the eu elections is really being found out, are you stupid.

        Re: Farridge

        Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 21:45:21, in reply to "Farridge"

        Really don't understand all this (I know I know what you're gonna call me) but I really don't understand the vitriol of remainers, 17.4m people voted to leave despite the Government spending a fortune of my money (BEFORE the vote) telling me what a disaster Brexit would be, get the Treasury, US President, BoE telling us what a disaster it would be (not forgetting the CBI).
        Strange but it hasn't worked out like that. Yet to see any convincing argument for staying in
        or even voting for Change UK, there's a misnomer!

          Re: Farridge

          Posted by wolfie on 14/5/2019, 8:54:18, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

          OK. Here we go.

          Pre-16. Top of EU growth league
          16-early 19 Relegation zone of EU growth league

          £ record drops

          Investment levels dropped since 2016

          No coherent plan from government, official opposition or pro-Brexit opposition

          Country hopelessly divided both in parliament nd with voters

          We haven't left yet

          I could go on.

            Re: Farridge

            Posted by WinchesterHatter on 13/5/2019, 22:34:55, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

            What you’ve done there is try to change the subject.

            Just like Farage was doing all the way through that interview...

              Re: Farridge

              Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:40:06, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

              Admit I did not see the interview (in Portugal at the moment) but I still don't see how that people say it was only Farage that lied, lots of that went on!

              Re: Farridge

              Posted by SAHB on 13/5/2019, 22:10:38, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

              I really don't understand why people get so hot under the collar about Brexit.
              I ask everyone who voted leave if they can give me 3 things that affect their lives because of the EU.
              They really struggle.
              Then I ask them for 3 things that affect them in their local area.
              And they reel off ten.
              The real problems we have in this Country are caused by our Government and even more so by our local councils.
              If people were only as passionate about their local politics as they are about Brexit I think we would see more effort being put in by those in control.
              Brexit has been a disaster, there should never have been a referendum,no one cared 4 years ago about the EU ,now it's all they care about.
              It's Madness of the highest order.

                Re: Farridge

                Posted by HH on 13/5/2019, 22:26:24, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                Well said

                  Re: Farridge

                  Posted by Godders on 13/5/2019, 22:55:52, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                  +1

                Re: Farridge

                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:52:34, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                I have yet to see any Leave person give a single tangible benefit for leaving.
                We are unlikely to get get any trade deals with terms better than we have now.
                Turkey was never ever going to be able to join.
                We could always have had blue passports (and by the way, they were previously very dark navy).
                The only reason for Farridge etc. to push so hard for leaving is because the EU has passed laws(yes we voted for them too) to stop the stashing of ill-gotten gains in tax havens.
                And if you look at opinion polls now, they mostly show a majority for remaining.

                  Re: Farridge

                  Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:01:41, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                  OK at least you've given me something. How about the ability to set our own laws (we are unique in having Common Law as opposed to a written constitution, frequently differs to our Common Laws),our own tariffs Really don't understand why you think we can't do our own trade agreements, sorry but it doesn't make sense to me.

                    Re: Farridge

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:10:44, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                    We do frame our own laws. What do you think Parliament does? And do you really think that other countries are going to treat a small island (and a bit of another) the same as they treat a bloc of 28 countries?
                    We've already had the Yanks saying we should lower our standards to let in their lax laws on food safety and additives.

                      Re: Farridge

                      Posted by old gold on 13/5/2019, 22:21:40, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                      Yes because we have the 5th biggest economy in the world, we have some of the best scientists and AI people in the world, we have laws that enable us to have a very very low unemployment rate (compare that with most of Europe, particularly youth unemployment, God what a problem we're storing up there) Southern Europe states are already rebelling, do you really think it will get better?

                        Re: Farridge

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:30:06, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                        We used to have the fourth biggest economy before the referendum. And even then it's only a fraction of the US, China and the EU.

                        There is no appetite for leaving among other countries, even those with populist right-wing governments.
                        When you say laws that allow us to have a very low unemployment rate, do you mean the low-wage,zero-hours employment contracts that mean Amazon etc. are being subsidised by in-work benefits?
                        That's not really the whole country prospering.

                          Re: Farridge

                          Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:35:17, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                          We have huge a huge Commonwealth out there , I do wish Remainers would stop being so defeatist and grasp the opportunities the WORLD offers us

                            Re: Farridge

                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:56:32, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                            The Commonwealth we turned our back on when we joined?

                            It's not being defeatist to try to see things realistically instead of harking back to the days of empire. The world has moved on, no-one owes us a living.

                              Re: Farridge

                              Posted by HH on 13/5/2019, 22:49:51, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                              WTO rules don't and won't allow us to grasp any opportunities out there. Trying to replace the EU with the Commonwealth is insane

                                Re: Farridge

                                Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:55:13, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                Sorry but that is rubbish!

                                  Re: Farridge

                                  Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/5/2019, 23:10:00, in reply to "Re: Farridge"



                                  Change your handle to ‘comedygold’

                                    Re: Farridge

                                    Posted by HH on 13/5/2019, 22:57:52, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                    Please explain how WTO rules allow us to trade with the rest of the world more effectively then we do now?

                                  Re: Farridge

                                  Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:45:36, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                  Sorry but I really am waiting for someone to tell me what is so special about the EU and why I should vote to remain is there is a 2nd Referendum.

                                    Re: Farridge

                                    Posted by wolfie on 14/5/2019, 9:30:52, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                    Because cooperation with your neighbours is always preferable.

                                    As you have stated elesewhere we are able to provide an economy that plays to our strengths, have a skilled workforce, set laws etc currently as members of the EU.

                                    So not entirely sure what extra benefits

                                    China, India and the US as economic and political powers are far larger than we can aspire to be. In effect they are Real Madrid, Paris St Germain and Man City. We are at best Arsenal but probably Everton. Good but not of their scale. And if football teaches us anything. The Everton's are more likely to become Leeds, Forest, Villa or Sunderland than Man City.

                                    When we join forces with France and Germany et al we start mattering again at the top table. In effect we become Barcelona.

                                    The Commonwealth is a sideshow. Commonwealth countries are more interested in a) trading with their neighbours. We are literally the only country alongside North Korea who does not understand this point. b) trading with the economic super powers China, US, Japan and India. In the case of India they are also interested in being an economic super power.

                                    They are keen to trade also with the UK. But its incredibly naive to think they will bend over backwards to give special treatment to their distant former Colonial Rulers.

                                    In short the EU allows us to punch above our weight. Everton or Barcelona. You decide?

                                      Re: Farridge

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:59:51, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                      Because no leaver has been able to point to any tangible realistic benefit for leaving.
                                      Remember David Davis and his easy-pease negotiations? "Countries will be falling over themselves to trade with us"?

                                      Pie in the sky, cloud cuckoo land.

                                  Re: Farridge

                                  Posted by Terry in the Office on 13/5/2019, 22:26:58, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                  Cue the normal twaddle about zero hours contracts.

                                    Re: Farridge

                                    Posted by Eric on 13/5/2019, 23:09:43, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                    Terry. Please get out of the office.

                                      Re: Farridge

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:32:38, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                      Why is it twaddle?
                                      It happens.
                                      It means people don't feel secure.
                                      It means they have to rely on in-work benefits to make ends meet.
                                      Which in turn means that the employer is being subsidised by the taxpayer, while they pay as little tax as possible.

                                    Re: Farridge

                                    Posted by Altern-8 on 13/5/2019, 22:16:10, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                    TTIP is between the EU and USA.

                                      Re: Farridge

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:19:22, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                      And, thanks to the veto of the UK and others, it wasn't passed into EU law.

                                Re: Farridge

                                Posted by crumpsall on 13/5/2019, 21:47:32, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                Er....we haven't left yet, in case you haven't noticed.

                                Sorry to break the news to you.

                                Re: Farridge

                                Posted by charlatans spivs and thieves on 13/5/2019, 21:31:07, in reply to "Farridge"

                                up there with Sir Winston

                                  Re: Farridge

                                  Posted by EastEnder on 13/5/2019, 21:38:13, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                  He's an utter moron.

                                    Re: Farridge

                                    Posted by Noddy on 13/5/2019, 21:32:56, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                    He's not fit to lace the collar of the nodding dog that flogs insurance.

                                      Re: Farridge

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:32:19, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                      That is demeaning to Sir Winston. He cared about this country, not his bank balance.

                                      Re: Farridge

                                      Posted by Maillot Jaune on 13/5/2019, 21:19:40, in reply to "Farridge"

                                      Farridge ?

                                        Re: Farridge

                                        Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/5/2019, 21:25:13, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                        Yes Justin. That's how its pronounced.

                                          Re: Farridge

                                          Posted by Maillot Jaune on 13/5/2019, 21:26:02, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                          Bizarre .

                                            Re: Farridge

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:28:40, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                            How do you pronounce the building which is built for the storage of cars, but generally holds garden tools, assorted pieces of wood and other stuff that might come in useful?

                                              Re: Farridge

                                              Posted by Bruno on 13/5/2019, 21:32:24, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                              ‘Garridge’

                                                Re: Farridge

                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:32:53, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                Precisely

                                                  Re: Farridge

                                                  Posted by Bruno on 13/5/2019, 21:33:57, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                  👍

                                              Re: Farridge

                                              Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/5/2019, 21:28:19, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                              Not really. Farridge.

                                              You know, like 'porridge'.

                                            Re: Farridge

                                            Posted by Terry in the Office on 13/5/2019, 21:22:39, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                            It's an attempt at humour.

                                              Re: Farridge

                                              Posted by Maillot Jaune on 13/5/2019, 21:24:28, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                              No wonder it failed me !!

                                                Re: Farridge

                                                Posted by James on 13/5/2019, 21:24:16, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                it was funny

                                              Re: Farridge

                                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:09:04, in reply to "Farridge"

                                                Re: Farridge

                                                Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 21:20:42, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                I may need to give you both the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't watch the interview. I enjoy the Andrew Marr show but that was his worst interview ever and I mean that by some way. I don't need to express my own political views here but if you watch it you'll see for yourself. Anyone watching who was unsure of BBC bias will have ended the show in no doubt whatsoever.

                                                  Re: Farridge

                                                  Posted by Noddy on 13/5/2019, 21:37:46, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                  Nigel has said he will stand to be an MP. If that's the case then any interviewer has every right to ask him about his views on any and everything as, unless he's beaten by a bloke dressed as a dolphin again, he'd be voting upon them.

                                                    Re: Farridge

                                                    Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 21:39:50, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                    Watch the interview. I can tell from what you think is the 'issue' you didn't. I'm no Farrage fan but the problem with modern politics is politicians don't listen and too many voters don't understand.

                                                      Re: Farridge

                                                      Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/5/2019, 21:43:40, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                      No, he was mouthing off (like he usually does) - shouting his own agenda. When cornered he showed he showed himself to be the gobshite that he is. He's a nothing.

                                                        Re: Farridge

                                                        Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 21:45:51, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                        If that is what you saw then there is no hope for any of us really. If you saw that then likely there were two people who saw a possible future Prime Minister. Oh dear God.

                                                          Re: Farridge

                                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:44:59, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                          Indeed.

                                                            Re: Farridge

                                                            Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 21:53:06, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                            OK. Here's the thing. Specify one thing that Andrew Marr asked Farrage that was relevant to the actual context of 3 years post referendum and the utter shambles that has been the Conservative negotiations with the EU? The interview was largely about how Farrage has changed his stance on many things such as a 'no deal Brexit'. Of course he has!!!!!! The deal (THE ONLY DEAL!!!!) that May is tabling is simply a remain deal without the benefits. FFS!!!!!!!!!

                                                              Re: Farridge

                                                              Posted by old gold on 13/5/2019, 22:03:06, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                              Thank you!

                                                                Re: Farridge

                                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 21:56:27, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                But he said he hadn't said things that he's on record as saying, and got in a strop when Neil pointed them out to him.

                                                                  Re: Farridge

                                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 13/5/2019, 22:02:15, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                  That was funny.

                                                                  Farage: I coined the phrase 'no deal is better than a bad deal'


                                                                  Marr: in that case you said it away from the camera or a microphone because we've examined everything and there's not a single instance of it.

                                                                  Even then he continued to lie, right from the start of the interview.

                                                                  Yet, amazingly, some people take him seriously!

                                                                    Re: Farridge

                                                                    Posted by oldgold on 13/5/2019, 22:07:01, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                    So which one of our illustrious MPs, Cabinet Ministers etc are you taking seriously? Or are you listening to Blair?

                                                                    Re: Farridge

                                                                    Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 22:01:34, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                    No he didn't. Not once did he deny saying something, that's simply not true. It's there to watch!!! Marr was calling him out on changing his position which he has. He didn't deny once changing his position he blamed May and the shambles she has led!

                                                                      Re: Farridge

                                                                      Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 22:03:03, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                      ps - who's Neil? Are you conflating the Andrew Neil demolition of that American right wing idiot??????

                                                                        Re: Farridge

                                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:13:57, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                        Yes, sorry.

                                                                        Mind you, Farridge would be licking Trump's @rse if he ever got into a position of power here.

                                                                          Re: Farridge

                                                                          Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 22:17:53, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                                          When I fall asleep tonight I had better not incorporate that image into my dreams Nearly A Genius !!!!!

                                                                            Re: Farridge

                                                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/5/2019, 22:19:49, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                          Re: Farridge

                                                          Posted by James on 13/5/2019, 21:27:37, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                          Not sure you are correct ,Marr often refers back to stuff on Corbyn etc most of it is total garbage but thats the job

                                                            Re: Farridge

                                                            Posted by mmmm on 13/5/2019, 21:34:10, in reply to "Re: Farridge"

                                                            Yes he does. Corbyn has been on the receiving end too. This however was the worst example by some way.

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