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    Bloody Sunday

    Posted by Soldier F on 14/3/2019, 18:04:40

    So we prosecute a soldier but agree let murdering terrorists go free.Seems a tad unfair.

      Re: Bloody Sunday

      Posted by Jane on 14/3/2019, 19:31:43, in reply to "Bloody Sunday"

      I followed the enquiry and read a lot of the testimony. I have also read the book by Douglas Murray who sat through all of the testimony. Throughout soldier F was identified as shooting someone in the head. The man he shot was waving a white handkerchief and was trying to rescue someone on the ground. His testimony was apparently awful and it seemed that he was out of control. If any prosecutions followed it would have been him. Whilst it is awful, we, as a society must always ensure that those we invest with power exercise this in accordance with the law. We must hold soldiers to a higher standard .

        Re: Bloody Sunday

        Posted by RickyH on 14/3/2019, 18:27:16, in reply to "Bloody Sunday"

        Isnít Soldier F a murdering terrorist?

          Re: Bloody Sunday

          Posted by Soldier F on 14/3/2019, 18:42:38, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

          Possibly but should he not recieve the same conditions of release as those terrorists released?

            Re: Bloody Sunday

            Posted by Plasticpaddy on 14/3/2019, 18:47:08, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

            Stick him in an H block for 5 or 10 years then we can discuss equal treatment, 40 odd years of freedom seems ok for murder

              Re: Bloody Sunday

              Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:49:48, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

              I love the way he is so casual about murder. I'm sure if one of his loved one's was killed he would be very relaxed and suggesting we leave it. Some people are born daft, no doubt about it.

                Re: Bloody Sunday

                Posted by Plasticpaddy on 14/3/2019, 19:00:52, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                No body wins Eric that's true

              Re: Bloody Sunday

              Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:44:42, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

              What if he killed your son or daughter ?

                Re: Bloody Sunday

                Posted by Soldier F on 14/3/2019, 18:50:06, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                Dreadful,but what about those the IRA and others killed,what about their families.I am not saying the soldier is innocent but he should be treated under the same conditions as those released.

                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                  Posted by Sendero Luminoso on 14/3/2019, 19:21:08, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                  He is being treated in the same way as those subsequently released. ie. he is facing prosecution in a court of law.

                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                    Posted by Paddy Hatter on 14/3/2019, 19:05:49, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                    Or maybe the government ministers at the time ? Or the Army generals and Commanders ? The great thing is that the toffee nosed elite who ordered them to fire upon people are the very people who escape
                    punishment......just like the gulf war when Tony Blair went to war over WMD which was never proven.......yet soldiers were taken to court to follow orders of the Government....

                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                      Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:54:04, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                      He has never been charged until now. He has been treated differently under a possible cover up. What is it you are struggling with ?

                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                      Posted by Ethel on 14/3/2019, 18:47:59, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                      You can't ask him those questions.

                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                  Posted by Mahatma Gander on 14/3/2019, 18:24:46, in reply to "Bloody Sunday"

                  Yeah but Tony Blair knows a good lawyer.

                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                    Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:21:10, in reply to "Bloody Sunday"

                    Oh well. Should not go around killing civilians.

                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                      Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 18:06:24, in reply to "Bloody Sunday"

                      Which murdering terrorist has gone free

                      name n shame please

                        Re: Bloody Sunday

                        Posted by Soldier F on 14/3/2019, 18:16:11, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                        Patrick Magee Brighton bomber plus over 400 others.

                          Re: Bloody Sunday

                          Posted by ethel on 14/3/2019, 18:46:36, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                          Dont cry b###h.

                            Re: Bloody Sunday

                            Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 18:19:03, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                            Can you name the 400 and what crimes they have not been charged with -of course you cannot-you are just trying to stir up a bigots thread-grow up chum

                              Re: Bloody Sunday

                              Posted by 4-4-2 on 14/3/2019, 19:05:31, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                              Another massive shift

                              Is there really nothing else going on in your life Walter?

                            Re: Bloody Sunday

                            Posted by nev the bear on 14/3/2019, 18:14:12, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                            they have anonymity read the artical

                              Re: Bloody Sunday

                              Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 18:16:23, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                              So do the paratroopers, also Soldier F been free for 47 years and yet to be found guilty.

                                Re: Bloody Sunday

                                Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 18:36:03, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                His name is already ou there. But of course we have to trust the integrity of the enquiry in to believing that there were no IRA gunmen present !

                                Some people just can't handle the truth.

                                https://cryptogentile.blogspot.com/2008/09/ira-man-killed-on-bloody-sunday.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR2AVLm1TGkJ5yNnEUo7DD15Ag0iznr0DsQCApCzpsmOqme-VcC24nXN1yQ

                                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                                  Posted by Bab on 14/3/2019, 18:51:17, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                  Hearsay v British government inquiry.
                                  Ok

                                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                                    Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 18:55:33, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                    You clearly have absolutely no comprehension as to the levels the IRA would go to ensure people kept quiet !

                                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                                      Posted by Bab on 14/3/2019, 20:25:40, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                      Nor your blinkered view affects your vision

                                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                                    Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:43:28, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                    You have evidence ? Is it from the sun ?

                                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                                      Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 18:48:13, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                      It's from Eamon Collins, murdered by the IRA in 1999 in conversations he had with William McGuiness, brother of Martin, whilst in Crumlin Rd Jail.

                                      " It was during our conversations about Bloody Sunday, and its aftermath, that Eamon told me what William McGuinness had once said to him in Crumlin Road. He said that one day, while they were discussing the civil rights movement and Bloody Sunday, William had shocked him with something he had mentioned almost in passing.

                                      According to Eamon, William said that, despite denials over the years, IRA men had been wounded by gunfire on Bloody Sunday. He said that the casualties had been taken across the border to the Irish Republic to have their injuries tended. There, one of the wounded IRA men had subsequently died - and been secretly buried. " IRA Supergrass. Eamon Collins (Killed by the IRA in 1999)

                                        Re: Bloody Sunday

                                        Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:51:25, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                        But you ignore other evidence ? This is the gospel truth yer ? Ok.

                                          Re: Bloody Sunday

                                          Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 18:53:09, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                          Other evidence ? What, in the Irish Sun ?

                                            Re: Bloody Sunday

                                            Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 18:55:46, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                            Would it be fair to label you a bit dim ?

                                              Re: Bloody Sunday

                                              Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 18:58:15, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                              Would it be fair to say you are absolutely clueless.

                                                Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                Posted by Senderoso Luminoso on 14/3/2019, 19:29:12, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                Yes I would, my apologies.

                                                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                  Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 19:04:48, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                  Could be bigotry of course,could be both. Oh well.

                                                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                    Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 19:11:56, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                    . . . and as if to prove my point, your lack of knowledge leads you to resort to an apparent insult to someone you don't know, someone you've never met, but just based on your own prejudice.

                                                    I merely shared an account that is in line with what those people on the ground have always maintained, yet was ignored by the Saville inquiry.

                                                    Make your own mind up as to its veracity, but i would suggest that the eagerness of the IRA's nut job team to dispose of Collins might give you a clue !

                                                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                      Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 19:15:05, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                      So the independent inquiry was wrong and flawed ? Who killed the civilians or where they IRA people ?

                                                        Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                        Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 19:17:36, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                        Who could possibly know, when the cowardly gunmen hid amongst the civilian population to fire on the Army ?

                                                          Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                          Posted by Plasticpaddy on 14/3/2019, 19:47:13, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                          And what did these IRA gunmen hit? Were any Police or Army hit by these gunmen?

                                                            Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                            Posted by SAHB on 14/3/2019, 19:29:56, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                            Even the Army have said that there were no IRA present now.
                                                            I think it is wrong for the soldier to be charged,his commanding officer is responsible for him.
                                                            The Commanding officer if he had any morals would say that he was responsible,unless this Soldier has shot people defying orders ,which nobody has suggested.

                                                              Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                              Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 19:22:33, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                              Do you not think Professional soldiers firing randomly into a civilian crowd is cowardly

                                                                Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 19:31:27, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                Nonsense

                                                                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                  Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 19:32:54, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                  oh dear

                                                                    Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                    Posted by Plasticpaddy on 14/3/2019, 19:48:43, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                    I think you are talking to an idiot Jimbo

                                                                      Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                      Posted by icancyu on 14/3/2019, 19:35:20, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                      Oh dear indeed Jimbo.

                                                                      You waffle on as usual about the things you know nothing about

                                                                        Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                        Posted by Jimbo on 14/3/2019, 19:47:02, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                        Did they shoot themselves then

                                                                  Re: Bloody Sunday

                                                                  Posted by Eric on 14/3/2019, 19:21:14, in reply to "Re: Bloody Sunday"

                                                                  go away you idiot.

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