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    WE WANT NO DEAL

    Posted by Bishop Hatter on 13/3/2019, 20:32:49

    SAY WE WANT NO DEAL

      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

      Posted by eartheart on 13/3/2019, 21:47:21, in reply to "WE WANT NO DEAL"

      Well sounds like you do Bishop but don't speak for me - bloody awful idea, after 70 years if peace I do not want to go back to a warring Europe but we will if this falls apart

        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

        Posted by Altern-8 on 13/3/2019, 21:51:45, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

        Are you mental?

          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

          Posted by eartheart on 13/3/2019, 22:33:44, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

          No, just thankfully fairly well balanced and think about the broad impacts of the EU. Does a brilliant job in maintaining peaceful relations between nations, helps develop poorer areas by distributing money to regions that our government doesn't do and gives the 4.3 UK citizens who choose to life in the rest of the EU the possibility to do so easily

            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 22:44:33, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

            Precisely.

              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

              Posted by Altern-8 on 13/3/2019, 22:46:18, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

              Never had you down as a mentalist.

                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 22:51:29, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                I have a family member living and working in Europe.
                He has already had to obtain a driving licence from that country in case his English one becomes invalid.
                Don't you think people should be able to make a life and a living for themselves in other countries?

                Winston Churchill in his wisdom advocated co-operation and the beginnings of the EU as a barrier to more war in Europe.

                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                  Posted by Ah seen on 14/3/2019, 7:58:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                  Wow we should defo stay in Just "in case" you have to get a driving licence............

                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 8:02:15, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                    The point has passed so far over your head it's heading for Alpha Centauri

                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                      Posted by Ah seen on 14/3/2019, 8:13:06, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                      "In case"

                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 8:18:26, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                        Blithering idiot.

                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                          Posted by Ah seen on 14/3/2019, 8:23:30, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                          "In case"

                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 8:27:45, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                            Simpleton.

                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                              Posted by Ah seen on 14/3/2019, 8:40:32, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                              Nice sign off, don't be so hard on yourself.

                              They didn't have to take a test did they, "fact" ?

                              They did it just "in case".

                              And you call me "simpleton"

                              These remainers are "thick as shite.....

                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 9:30:28, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                The'in case' was 'in case the UK is daft enough to leave the EU'.
                                Crawl back to your cave.

                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                    Posted by bbb on 13/3/2019, 23:01:55, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                    'in case'

                    So he didnt have to really.

                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 23:05:09, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                      Yes he did. The only way it wouldn't have been necessary was if this stupid farce stopped and we stay in.

                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                        Posted by bbb on 13/3/2019, 23:09:28, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                        He really didnt NEED to though, did he NaGs?

                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 7:51:10, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                          Yes. Part of his job involves driving to different towns. Bit difficult without a valid licence

                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                            Posted by bbb on 14/3/2019, 8:44:24, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                            But hes got a valid license already!

                            Nothing has changed.

                            Sounds like he has jumped the gun tbh.

                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 9:32:01, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                              A UK licence will not be valid to drive in the EU when (if) we leave. How hard is it to comprehend?

                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                Posted by bbb on 14/3/2019, 9:38:32, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                We haven't left.

                                Nothing has been decided.

                                How hard is that to comprehend?

                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 9:53:32, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                  So he waits till the last minute and finds out that there's a delay.
                                  Brilliant planning. Not.

                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                    Posted by bbb on 14/3/2019, 10:02:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                    Even if they do change the rules about a UK license abroad(and it's a big if) do you really think it'd be implemented over night?

                                    I credited you with a bit more intelligent tbh NaGs.

                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                      Posted by Nearly a Genius on 14/3/2019, 10:18:10, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                      It's better to be prepared in advance than to be caught out though.

                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                Posted by Altern-8 on 13/3/2019, 22:44:30, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                Nuclear.

                That is what gave us peace ffs.

            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

            Posted by Zealot on 13/3/2019, 21:01:15, in reply to "WE WANT NO DEAL"

            Given the current state of our entire political class I suspect we'd all be materially better off in a federal Europe.

            I don't trust the ability of our government to single handedly protect us from external threats.

              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

              Posted by Colin on 13/3/2019, 20:41:20, in reply to "WE WANT NO DEAL"

                WTF

                Posted by Anony mouse on 13/3/2019, 22:02:52, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                Is that jezzas glory hole?

                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 20:39:12, in reply to "WE WANT NO DEAL"

                Come in a taxi...

                Won't be able to afford the return journey if you get your way.

                Cheers, Jim

                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                  Posted by Nick PBH on 13/3/2019, 20:37:06, in reply to "WE WANT NO DEAL"

                  Oh no we don`t

                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                    Posted by Tommy Kiernan on 13/3/2019, 20:42:40, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                    Oh yes we do

                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                      Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 20:45:23, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                      Why?

                      Some proper reasoning please, you're old enough to provide that rather than just some tired clichés and/or soundbites.

                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                        Posted by Nick PBH on 13/3/2019, 20:54:02, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                        Him or me? or is he behind you?

                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                          Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:01:37, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                          TK, Nick. Not you. Are you okay, by the way? Not seen you at the match for a while.

                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                            Posted by Nick PBH on 13/3/2019, 21:06:23, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                            Fine thanks

                            Missed a few after Christmas due to work/ skiing etc then could only get a ticket in the oak road for the last home match. Expect to see a very pissed me in one of the boxes saturday (just look for the reflection if its sunny)

                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                              Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:20:48, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                              Haha, will do!!

                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                          Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 20:53:45, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                          Put it this way, if we get enough points to be promoted this year and Sunderland lose out. Does this mean that they can call for the season to be played again? You would be the first to complain right.

                          The vote was to leave, so we leave.

                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                            Posted by Plasticpaddy on 13/3/2019, 21:14:30, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                            So why does May keep having na vote on her deal? She lost the first one but she had another.....does democracy only work in certain situations?

                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                              Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:20:55, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                              Study the Hegelian Dialectic, that will explain all...

                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                Posted by Plasticpaddy on 13/3/2019, 21:46:45, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                More like sophistry than an explanation

                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                  Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:22:53, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                  So where's your higher level of truth, then?

                                  Tin foil hat, maybe??

                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                    Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:26:18, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                    s######...that is your answer to everything crumps, C'mon you can do better than that.

                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                      Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:48:23, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                      It's not my answer to everything, but it tends to be my answer to you for one very good reason.

                                      YOU NEVER, EVER, PROVIDE AN OUNCE OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU SAY.

                                      I'm sick of your constant 'go away and do some research ' - no, you do the research, you provide the evidence - it's you who makes the outrageous claims and assertions.

                                      For once in your life, back something up with some facts. Provide evidence. Quote sources.

                                      It's what people do when they want to establish factual bases for their comments. And you never do it, so, yes, you get facetious responses some times.

                                      Over to you. Come back with facts and you'll get a sensible reply.

                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                        Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 21:55:20, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                        What like you did when I asked you to provide evidence I had lied ...Hypocrisy of the highest order .

                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                          Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 21:58:57, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                          Probably more like when that dickhead Abbot asked me to provide evidence that all brexitards, on here, are cretinous morons.

                                          Here's a link for both of you:

                                          http://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/

                                          Cheers, Jim

                                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                            Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:11:09, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                            No idea what you are linking or writing - but tbh not much change . I am sure it's very witty and clever - calling someone a dickhead is genius.

                                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                              Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:16:30, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                              Yep, much less humiliating losing to a genius.

                                              Shit spin, only lying to yourself.

                                              Cheers, Jim

                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:25:06, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                Wish I was - I genuinely have no idea what your link is or what you are writing about . If you are calling me a dickhead then perhaps you could tell me why ?

                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:28:56, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  Oh, I believe you. You seem like an idiot.

                                                  Cheers, Jim

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:39:00, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    Can't argue with such wisdom .

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:49:47, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      Thought you might .

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 23:14:14, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        I literally have no idea what you are talking about - are you a teenage girl ?

                                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                          Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:51:27, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                          See, this, this is the sort of shit I'm talking about.

                                                          Cheers, Jim

                                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                          Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:43:57, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                          Again, I believe you.

                                                          Cheers, Jim

                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:58:44, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                I did provide the newspaper reference to back my point up. And the twitter references. You chose to both move the goalposts about what I said, and not bother reading the references either.


                                                But then, you're a liar about what you yourself have said and a distorter of what people say, so no surprise there.



                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:07:20, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  The "proof'" you provided wasn't Man City officially complaining about the police which you claimed . It's actually kind of irrelevant because wrong or right ( an interpretation of something ) doesn't make someone a lair . Would it be acceptable if I called you a paedophile based on your appearance - no of course not .
                                                  Just so you know it's kind of pissing me off being called a liar .

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by Loot on 13/3/2019, 22:15:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    >> it's kind of pissing me off being called a liar <<

                                                    I don't believe you.

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:27:46, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      That's not bad ... Good to see some humour rather than vitriol from keyboard warriors.

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 22:15:20, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      You lied about what I had originally said. It was indicated at the time that City had both questioned and complained about the police not just changing the route, but also that they had announced that - and that their intention was to further that complaint through Greater Manchester Police. That's not the same as saying they had actually made an official complaint, yet you introduced that as what I had said. Which is a lie.

                                                      You then perpetuated that lie. Transparently you believe that you didn't lie, but that's really not my problem.

                                                      Incidentally, not a single person has been charged and the whole police handling of the situation still rankles up here. Not that you'd be interested in the truth....

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:37:46, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        No I didn't - you quoted and still are repeating comments from various people allegedly representing Man City . I pointed out that Man City hadn't officially came out with any criticism of the police to which you accuse me of twisting the story and worse still, lying .
                                                        If you are saying that you agree Man City didn't make any official complaint about the police then we are in agreement . I at no stage lied . ( even if they had made an official complaint I just couldn't find one - it make me incompetent but not a lair ) .

                                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                          Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 22:41:05, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                          You lied then about what I said, and you continue to do so.

                                                          Call it distortion if you prefer, I call it a lie.

                                                          And all because you wanted to make some obnoxious point about scousers. How pathetic.

                                                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                            Posted by The Questioner on 13/3/2019, 22:52:41, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                            No I didn't lie or make obnoxious comments about Scousers . I did take umbrage that you suggested it was just some jolly japes though . They chucked bottles and flares at the players coach - not clever but you deemed that behaviour acceptable .

                                                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                              Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 22:57:52, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                              There you go again. 'jolly japes' - your words, no mine. A distortion. 'you deemed that behaviour acceptable' - a complete and utter lie.

                                                              You can't help yourself, can you? I believe there's a name for that....

                                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                                Posted by The questioner on 13/3/2019, 23:19:29, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                I am sure I haven't quoted you word for word but it was something similar . You obviously remember it clearly - what do you think you wrote ?
                                                                Bit pointless this really as its he said she said - the only bit that can be proved is that Man City didn't make an official complaint which is what you accused me of lying about .

                                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 23:46:56, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                  Man City didn't make an official complaint which is what you accused me of lying about .

                                                                  Again, utterly untrue. I think you may have a problem with comprehension - perhaps when you 'distort/lie' you simply haven't understood what is being said (that's me being generous by the way).

                                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                                    Posted by The Questioner on 14/3/2019, 9:01:05, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                    key point that I was making was that Man City hadn't made an official complaint , you posted local journalists comments suggesting they had. Which is of course spin and not factual .
                                                                    Tbh that's gone and I can't prove what you wrote as you can't what I did .
                                                                    However although I think you are wrong I wouldn't call you a liar which is ####ing rude.

                                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                          Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 22:26:11, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                          For absolute clarity:

                                                          'had both questioned and complained about the police not just changing the route, but also that they had announced that change to the public'

                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                          Posted by Nick PBH on 13/3/2019, 21:10:12, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                          OK
                                          1)They get another go next year
                                          2)There was a leave deal on the table. It got rejected. By leavers for a start

                                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                            Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:00:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                            Wow.

                                            I've read some simplistic balderdash in my time, but that takes some beating.

                                            Those conspiracy theories seem to have burnt out a few circuits!

                                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                              Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:16:35, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                              99% of so called conspiracies turn out to be true. Its easy to bury your head up your arse, and call everything that you don't believe a conspiracy.
                                              Do a little research on The Hegelian Dialectic, you will see how easy they manipulate the public.

                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:23:42, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                I think maybe you should try and understand it yourself, first of all.

                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:27:48, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  i do crumps, you obviously don't.

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:49:07, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    No, you really don't.

                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:08:30, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                Do you Start screaming and stamping your feet crumpshall if you can't get your own way?

                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:13:40, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  Good grief, that takes another prize for extreme irony!!!

                                                  Do you actually bother to read back what you post on here and how you react when people don't agree with your lunatic theories?

                                                  You need to take a look in the mirror matey.

                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:06:34, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  TRUTH HURTS crumpshall

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 21:11:29, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    Dear oh dear.

                                                    Go on, give us one concrete benefit of leaving. Not wishful thinking, blue bananas or bent passports.

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:21:47, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      Na purple carrots.

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 21:31:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        Seriously?

                                                        You can't, can you?
                                                        It's all sound bites and slogans.

                                                        Do you believe that the Leave campaign was bankrolled by international financiers and crooks, including the Russians? Because that is far more verifiable than all your weird theories.

                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                Posted by Tommy Kiernan on 13/3/2019, 20:50:08, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                I believe New deals would soon be negotiated because European countries need us just as much as we need them. Barnier and co couldn't give a damn.

                                                  Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                  Posted by Desperate Dan on 13/3/2019, 20:59:58, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                  a quote which sums up the EU
                                                  president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Junker: “Prime ministers must stop listening so much to their voters and instead act as ‘full time Europeans’
                                                  Or how about another one his remarks: “When it gets serious, you have to lie”.

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by truth hurts on 13/3/2019, 21:02:27, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    People are waking up to the fact that these parasites are NOT there to help us the people, as we are witnessing.

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by Zealot on 13/3/2019, 21:08:28, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      Just to clarify, which parasites? Just the European ones or the ones in our own parliament too?

                                                      If we voted for proper MEPs and not people who do you want to represent us then the benefits of EU collaboration might be better delivered.

                                                      How many local, national, and European elections have you personally failed to vote in?

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by Zealot on 13/3/2019, 21:09:29, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        "do not want to represent us"

                                                    Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                    Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 20:53:19, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                    Sorry, those are both clichés and soundbites.

                                                    I'm not really interested in what 'you believe' as such, as - unless you are really hiding your light under a bushel - you know no more than I do, and I don't know what to 'believe'. It's rather too important for blind faith, don't you think?

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by HH on 13/3/2019, 21:00:31, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      That’s all they’ve got.

                                                      People who continue to promote a no deal Brexit are no better than C&R. They all abandoned all the evidence a long time ago and just continue with it either because of stubbornness or because they’re financially motivated by it.

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by Churchill on 13/3/2019, 22:07:45, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        Oh get you. Be a man take it on the chin and suck it up we are leaving a failing trade union. Life’s good. Enjoy. If not Fck off to Portugal, Italy or Spain and enjoy their riches.

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by hatters1988 on 13/3/2019, 20:59:34, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      I think that's ultimately the crux of the matter, NOBODY really knows either way.

                                                      All this in house fighting, back stabbing and point scoring is pointless.

                                                      Only solution is to work collectively and collaboratively.....But we know that doesn't suit their pathetic mandates.

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:02:24, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        +1

                                                      Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                      Posted by Zoe on 13/3/2019, 20:51:52, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                      But they don’t need us do they? They can continue to trade amongst themselves without paying the tariffs we will have to introduce.

                                                        Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                        Posted by Desperate Dan on 13/3/2019, 21:09:39, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                        our trade to the EU has fallen by 20% since 1999 and continues to fall. Our trade with the US and the rest of the world has increased massively.

                                                          Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 21:15:36, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                          Do you want their chlorinated chicken, dried food with insect parts permitted, and US healthcare companies running the NHS? Because that's their demands for increasing trade with us.

                                                            Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                            Posted by Desperate Dan on 13/3/2019, 21:23:23, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                            We have done quite well at food poisoning with mad cows disease and salmonella from eggs, all under the glorious EUs watch.

                                                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 21:43:02, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                              Spotted, recognised and dealt with.

                                                              US food law allows a percentage of maggots and insect parts in food. UK and EU law doesn't.
                                                              And instead of having minimum standards of animal welfare, they prefer to soak chickens in chlorine to remove bacteria, instead of ensuring that infections don't take place.
                                                              And feeding farm animals with antibiotics just in case, so they enter the food product, and allowing GM food products. And they will insist that we accept these abominations as part of trade deals.

                                                                Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                                Posted by Zealot on 13/3/2019, 21:24:26, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                Tell me how they stopped our government from dealing with that Dan.

                                                              Re: WE WANT NO DEAL

                                                              Posted by Zealot on 13/3/2019, 21:12:17, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                              Source?

                                                              Import or export?

                                                              What's the absolute value?

                                                              What's the EU proportional value?

                                                              How does each impact the other?

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                                                                Posted by Desperate Dan on 13/3/2019, 21:18:14, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                you get asked to substantiate something on here so you put something up then get pelters for it.
                                                                Oxford Economics/ Haver Analyticals something I was reading.

                                                                By the way the banks in Italy are fuced just like in Greece Spain and Portugal, commonly known as the PIGS. Italys are the ones to watch for if they do implode its over for Hitler and the Fourth Reich.

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                                                                  Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/3/2019, 21:19:43, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                  All that was supposed to happen two and half years ago Dan. It didn’t.

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                                                                    Posted by Desperate Dan on 13/3/2019, 21:24:53, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                    true cant argue with that, but it hasnt gone away either.

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                                                              Posted by Tommy Kiernan on 13/3/2019, 21:00:49, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                              They export more to us than we do to them. Yes Crumpsell nobody really knows what the effects will be but this country will come out of it quite well.

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                                                                Posted by crumpsall on 13/3/2019, 21:03:37, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                Yes Crumpsell nobody really knows what the effects will be but this country will come out of it quite well

                                                                Can't you see the internal contradictions of that statement?????

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                                                                  Posted by Tommy Kiernan on 13/3/2019, 21:06:25, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                  Yep

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                                                                Posted by Mahatma Gander on 13/3/2019, 20:58:41, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                It's not black and white though. No deal is good for no-one, on balance my feeling is that it's more likely there would be a rush to do some kind of deal than not. How quickly that can be achieved though is the tough part.

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                                                                  Posted by HH on 13/3/2019, 21:04:51, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                  It’s much, much worse for us though then it would be for them.

                                                                  Which is why the idea of it as a threat is ridiculous.

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                                                                    Posted by Mahatma Gander on 13/3/2019, 22:07:09, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                    Agreed, and to be clear I'm in now way suggesting it as a "threat".

                                                                    It's bad enough for the EU though that they would be motivated to fix it and they will be under pressure to do so.

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                                                                      Posted by HH on 13/3/2019, 22:28:51, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                      Yeah, didn’t mean you saw it as a threat - was more referring to the endless Tory MPs on TV the last few days calling it that

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                                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:12:34, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                        No, it isn't. Their 'fixing' it is in no way good for us.

                                                                        Cheers, Jim

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                                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 13/3/2019, 22:17:16, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                          Of course it is, no deal creates problems for them that people of influence will pressure them to fix so, as I said, the most likely thing is that a deal will be found relatively quickly.

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                                                                            Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:22:39, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                            It really isn't. The entire EU is, as we speak, mitigating or preparing to mitigate all of the potential downsides of a no deal brexit. Mostly to our disadvantage and to ensure that it isn't in any way a bargaining chip.

                                                                            Cheers, Jim

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                                                                              Posted by Mahatma Gander on 14/3/2019, 7:11:42, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                              So who is going to buy all those BMWs? Just an example?

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                                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 21:45:16, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                        Not only that but they're materially prepared/preparing for it.

                                                                        A handsome man recently said that it would be the economic equivalent of pulling the pin on a hand -grenade while the EU stands at an almost safe distance.

                                                                        No bargaining chip at all.

                                                                        Cheers, Jim

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                                                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 22:31:14, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                          There was a cartoon on Facebook today with Mrs. May holding a smoking gun in her hand, a bullet hole in one foot and saying wtte of "vote for my deal or the other foot gets it"

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                                                                            Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:43:00, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                            I had a better one but I'm too much of a gentleman to use such language directly to a lady.

                                                                            Lube or no lube, though, essentially.

                                                                            Cheers, Jim

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                                                                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 13/3/2019, 22:45:54, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

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                                                                            Posted by HH on 13/3/2019, 22:30:17, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                            Perfect summary.

                                                                            Who’s the handsome man? Sounds like something James O’Brien would say

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                                                                              Posted by jimmyp on 13/3/2019, 22:39:20, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                              Or Joey Tribbiani: "a handsome man enters"





                                                                              Cheers, Jim

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                                                                                Posted by HH on 13/3/2019, 22:54:36, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                                Definitely O’Brien then...

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                                                                              Posted by Solingen Hatter on 13/3/2019, 22:22:23, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                              Or walking into the bank with whilst pointing a pistol in your ear and saying ‘gimme all the money or I’ll blow myself away’.

                                                                              Is it any wonder it’s such a fücking mess....

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                                                                            Posted by Tommy Kiernan on 13/3/2019, 21:02:40, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                            It will be tough if we have to rely on these poxy politicians.

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                                                                    Posted by Acton Hatter on 13/3/2019, 20:37:46, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                    Ship has sailed

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                                                                      Posted by Boncho on 13/3/2019, 20:49:56, in reply to "Re: WE WANT NO DEAL"

                                                                      Who is'we'?

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