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    Austerity bites

    Posted by EastEnder on 7/11/2018, 14:45:33

    The richest people in the UK have increased their wealth by 183% in 10 years. 10 yrs ago the wealthiest 1,000 people in Britain had combined wealth of £256bn, but the same cohort now sit on £724bn.



      Re: Austerity bites

      Posted by Scathing hatter on 7/11/2018, 22:58:24, in reply to "Austerity bites"

      Source please?

        Re: Austerity bites

        Posted by SAHB on 7/11/2018, 16:39:16, in reply to "Austerity bites"

        This has gone on for too long,the way big business is sticking two fingers up at the average person,or the poorest needs to stop.
        How can anyone justify this amount of wealth ,I am all for people working hard and being rewarded but like the guy from Persimmon homes who got 75 million bonus,on top of millions income ,it has no relation to the work they do, even if you worked 24hrs a day can it really be worth that much.
        There are millions of people who work very very hard that earn less than £10 an hour.
        And another point is that once these people reach that level of wealth very little of it creates new wealth.

          Re: Austerity bites

          Posted by Honest on 7/11/2018, 17:08:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

          That 75 million prat has just resigned. ( taken his pot with him )

            Re: Austerity bites

            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 17:11:34, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

            It's the perfect example. There is no way in the world you need to pay anyone anything like that to do that job.

            Re: Austerity bites

            Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:47:50, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

            That last point is very telling.

            The positive side is that come the revolution we only have to put about a thousand traitors against the wall to be able to pay off a third of the national debt.

              Re: Austerity bites

              Posted by SAHB on 7/11/2018, 16:56:07, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

              I don't think of them as traitors,I think successive governments all the way back to Maggie are to blame,she took all the rights of unions away destroyed the manufacturing industries that gave people real jobs, and big business like the supermarkets,Amazon,health care Techave been allowed to treat their work force like shit, and not one government since has tried to change it, in fact they have continually encouraged the greed and the exploitation of the work force.

                Re: Austerity bites

                Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 17:01:00, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                Agree entirely, that comment wasn't meant to be taken seriously, it was just aping the silly communism stuff below.

                  Re: Austerity bites

                  Posted by SAHB on 7/11/2018, 17:06:07, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                  Yeah sorry I hadn't read the whole thread.

                    Re: Austerity bites

                    Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 17:10:53, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                    No worries, we seem to agree on the important stuff.

                    Problem is that lining up against the wall thing sometimes does seem a bit tempting

                      Re: Austerity bites

                      Posted by SAHB on 7/11/2018, 17:23:59, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                      Yes,catch me on one of my bad days and I will give you a hand to sort it out.

                        Re: Austerity bites

                        Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 17:31:24, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                        Deal!

                Re: Austerity bites

                Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 16:52:52, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                Only 1000? I'm in.

                Could we maybe just pay off 1/4 of the national debt and share the rest among ourselves? Becoming nailed on Tories in the process, obvs.

                Cheers, Jim

                  Re: Austerity bites

                  Posted by Definitely Not Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:59:35, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                  Sounds good to me.

                Re: Austerity bites

                Posted by Honest on 7/11/2018, 16:47:37, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                Some people love having the piss taken out of them.

                  Re: Austerity bites

                  Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:43:23, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                  +1

                  Re: Austerity bites

                  Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 15:44:37, in reply to "Austerity bites"

                  Fair play to them, the majority of "poor" in this country only have themselves to blame.

                    Re: Austerity bites

                    Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:09:45, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                    I presume that you yourself aren't poor then Mr Ironic name Hatter!

                      Re: Austerity bites

                      Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:16:25, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                      Yes I am poor and have only myself to blame just like the majority of poor.

                        Re: Austerity bites

                        Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:18:15, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                        Tell me exactly how you (unlikely with this artitide) and the poor only have themselves to blame.

                      Re: Austerity bites

                      Posted by 4-4-2 on 7/11/2018, 15:51:31, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                      What floor do you live on?

                        Re: Austerity bites

                        Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 15:55:21, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                        14th and I only have myself to blame

                          Re: Austerity bites

                          Posted by Ttt on 7/11/2018, 15:57:24, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                          No one would argue.

                            Re: Austerity bites

                            Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:00:06, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                            Glad you agree with my point

                              Re: Austerity bites

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:08:41, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                              So people with incurable illnesses have only themselves to blame? People whomhave been made redundant and can only find low-paid part-time work have only themselves to blame? People whose partners have died and are left on their own to bring up a family have only themselves to blame? Grow up and get your head out of Katie Hopkins backside.

                                Re: Austerity bites

                                Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:17:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                That is not the majority.

                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:20:31, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                  Yes it is.

                                  Don't believe the lies in your comic

                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                    Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:28:15, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                    I live among the so called poor, I see them using food banks when they have money for fags booze and drugs.

                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                      Posted by HS on 7/11/2018, 17:53:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                      I live among poor people, they work hard, they don't smoke drink or do any drugs. Yet they still have to use food banks. So what's your point?

                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:43:13, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                        Really? You're at the food bank every single day, at the same time as being at the shops, monitoring every single one of the people, all of whose personal circumstances are known to you, living in your block of flats?

                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                          Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 16:34:35, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                          How many people, tops, constitutes your limited anecdotal experience?

                                          I'd happily bet anything it doesn't cover more than 1/1000th of a percentage point of 'the poor'.

                                          Cheers, Jim

                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                            Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:38:13, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                            Fair point jimmy, I guess the other shit holes around the country could well be completely different.

                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:34:16, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                            So do I and I don't.

                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                          Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:19:00, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                          What are the majority like then?

                                          And how will you back that up?

                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                            Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:23:29, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                            More than happy for you to come to my tower block, have some tea with me I will show you how the vast majority in my block are nothing like the people Nag describes

                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                              Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:24:48, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                              Where's that then?

                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 16:31:06, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                You'd be able to see it from where you are if it's big enough to fit in 'the majority of the poor'.

                                                Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                  Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:37:27, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                  Fair point Jimmy, I guess the other shit holes around the country could well be completely different.

                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                    Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 16:40:03, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                    Could be. Point is you don't know.

                                                    Cheers, Jim

                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                      Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:43:48, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                      That's why I said fair point Jimmy. In my opinion its very unlikely but that's just my opinion

                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                        Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 16:50:26, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                        Indeed. Do me a favour and divide the entire number of people to whom you refer by the number of people who are 'poor' and tell me how many 0s there are after the decimal point.

                                                        With any luck, that should give you an idea of how reasonable it is to extrapolate that tiny fraction over a very big number.

                                                        Cheers, Jim

                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                  Posted by high rise hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:30:59, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                  Hockwell Ring, Luton.

                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                    Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:34:35, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                    Have you researched them then?

                                                    What are their budgets? What Čage of their income is spent on housing, food, heating etc?

                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                            Posted by ODTT on 7/11/2018, 16:15:57, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                            Been there NaG, but got up off the floor, dusted myself down and went again as against giving up and relying on the state for handouts.

                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                              Posted by Spix's former employer on 7/11/2018, 16:35:44, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                              Only cos you got bunged a few grand to keep schtum, then off to the lodge to see which fellow apron wearer you could coerce into employing you

                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                Posted by 4-4-2 on 7/11/2018, 16:28:35, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                Aren't you the silly old Norfolk OAP who kept getting the sack for being a total dick?

                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                  Posted by Paddy Hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:20:11, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                  Bye

                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:17:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                    Bully for you. Did you develop an incurable untreatable chronic disease that prevented your working?

                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                    Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:15:21, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                    Not only that, but I know many people who are hard working, sometimes working in excess of 70 hrs a week who still struggle to put bread on the table because the jobs they fo pay so poorly.

                                                    Meanwhile silver spoon boy does bugger all at school and lives off his great grandfather's estate in luxury looking down on the poor.

                                                    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNs4rDzpe4

                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                      Posted by Paddy Hatter on 7/11/2018, 16:14:34, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                      Bang on NaG
                                                      +1

                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:15:30, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                        Thank you.

                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                Posted by Ttt on 7/11/2018, 15:52:08, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                Posted by Journeyman on 7/11/2018, 15:50:36, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                Ok, for want of anything better to do right now iíll bite.

                                                In what way have over half the people in this country considered poor ďgot themselves to blameĒ?

                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                Posted by ODTT on 7/11/2018, 14:56:38, in reply to "Austerity bites"

                                                Jealous EE? Wish I was one of them, bet you do too. But we're both doing OK aren't we, neither of us are on the breadline.

                                                Stop moaning about what you haven't got and start enjoying what you have. Good luck to those wealthiest 1000, you never know EE, your lottery numbers might come up this week and then you'll be able to realise your dream and join them.

                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                  Posted by Spix's former employer on 7/11/2018, 16:14:17, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                  Good point Spix, oh former loyal employee that we sadly had to let go.

                                                  I'm sure many of those 1000 worked ever so hard to be born into inherited wealth. Not many have that sort of talent.

                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                    Posted by Spix Spotter on 7/11/2018, 15:09:56, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                    Oh dear, what a load of shite.

                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 15:08:37, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                      Haven't you just torpedoed your own argument?

                                                      He'd have to win the lottery a lot of times to get anywhere near that lot! That's how extreme it is, that level of wealth hoarding has to be damaging and restricting opportunity.

                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                        Posted by Idiot Spotter on 7/11/2018, 16:22:29, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                        And you voted leave to allow even more tax dodging by the elite

                                                        Thick as sh!t

                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:31:57, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                          Two points in your post.

                                                          Accuracy rate : 0%.

                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                        Posted by Farhat on 7/11/2018, 15:07:42, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                        That's not the point is it? EE wants a fairer society, he's not jealous of he rich.

                                                        Seems to me that Tory voters vote for me me me whereas Labour/Liberal/Green voters vote for a more equitable country, they actually care about other people.

                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                          Posted by Hmmm on 7/11/2018, 15:37:47, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                          Labour just want us all poor

                                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                                            Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 15:43:05, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                            Don't be ridiculous.

                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                              Posted by 4-4-2 on 7/11/2018, 15:48:08, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                              It's Coolio / Platform2.

                                                              He doesn't do "sensible".

                                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                                            Posted by EastEnder on 7/11/2018, 15:12:55, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                            exactly food banks multiply several times over whilst the rich get 200 per cent richer.

                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                              Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:07:51, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                              Disgusting isn't it.

                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                              Posted by Really? on 7/11/2018, 15:12:34, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                              Youíre all jealous, you all try to pay as little tax as possible then slag off the others Hucknle and the likes of you are all hypocrites.
                                                              Care about other people my arse, only when it suits or looks good more like.

                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                Posted by ODTT on 7/11/2018, 15:58:23, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                Spot on!! The lefties, all those who moan and groan because others have more than they have, would rather Corbyn and his mates have us all with nothing rather than praise those who have worked hard and made money which their endeavours have earned them.



                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                  Posted by HS on 7/11/2018, 18:22:30, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                  When the people of the world have a common monetary language, completely freed
                                                                  from every government, it will so facilitate and stabilize exchange that peace and prosperity
                                                                  will ensue even without world government. With the state denied its money diluting power,
                                                                  the ills that lead to strife and war will be removed. A union of peoples rather than a union of
                                                                  political governments is what this world needs.
                                                                  The natural government that tends to unite rather than separate exists under the
                                                                  natural laws of the personal enterprise system, namely, specialization of labor, exchange,
                                                                  and competition. It is operative without any enactment. It becomes mal-operative only
                                                                  when governments intervene to bias it. Hence we need no man-made laws to establish it or
                                                                  control it; we need only the absence of such laws to give it full sway. It happens that there
                                                                  are no political statutes prohibiting the liberation of the natural government of man.
                                                                  Therefore, we may proceed with this act of liberation without asking political action for
                                                                  either the repeal or the enactment of statutes.
                                                                  To implement the natural government of man, we need but establish a potentially
                                                                  universal monetary language that has no national or political complexion, and that is
                                                                  available to enterprisers in all parts of the world. Once such a nonpolitical monetary system
                                                                  is in existence, it can depend upon the appeal to self-interest to attract participants
                                                                  everywhere. Just to the extent that traders do business through the nonpolitical system, will
                                                                  they diminish their transactions in the political monetary system. By this process will
                                                                  political moneys be abolished and the nonpolitical system triumph and society be united on
                                                                  the economic plane. In other words, we need only invoke the law of competition by giving
                                                                  enterprisers the opportunity to choose between a national money and a universal one,
                                                                  between instability and stability, between infidelity and fidelity, between hazard and surety,
                                                                  between impediment and facility of exchange.
                                                                  -EC Riegal- Monetary theorist, The new approach to freedom 1949. A good read if you get the chance.

                                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:12:49, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                    What part of 'not jealous, just concerned about the vast growth in the riches of a very few tax-avoiding freeloaders while millions are on the breadline' do you not understand?

                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                      Posted by BJCarter on 7/11/2018, 18:09:04, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                      Agreed.

                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                        Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:17:09, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                        +1

                                                                        But in direct response the answer is all of it!

                                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                                          Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:19:06, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                          👍

                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                        Posted by Yeah on 7/11/2018, 16:08:15, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                        Agreed

                                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:04:34, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                          http://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1541607897.html

                                                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                                                            Posted by ODTT on 7/11/2018, 16:13:11, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                            If EE's numbers were to come up this week he'd immediately become a nailed on tory.

                                                                            Capitalism or communism? Communism has proved time after time not to work, why do you think so many former Soviet block Countries have embraced capitalism? It's because they want the opportunities the West have, but nothing falls off trees including money, it has to be worked for.

                                                                            The lefties hanker for the communist way when you sit on your backside all day and are handed the same money that those who work to earn. That's why the Soviet system collapsed, it simply didn't work.

                                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                                              Posted by Sigmund Freud on 7/11/2018, 17:37:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                              Aren't you the tosser who fell out with Spix and threw your toys out of the pram on Stevo's site?
                                                                              Still a twat I see.

                                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                Posted by Spix the liar on 7/11/2018, 17:51:27, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                Yes he is.

                                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                  Posted by Sigmund Freud on 7/11/2018, 18:38:41, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                  Thought so thanks.

                                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:24:05, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                I think you'll find thst capitalism has proved time after time not to work - except for the ruling class elite who brainwash the masses into thinking its alk about opportunity for everyone when, in reality, its only opportunities lie for those fortunate enough to be born into ptivilege.

                                                                                There are the occasional stories of people making a "success" (we need to be careful how we define that) but, by and large, capitalism is the greatest con in the world.

                                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                  Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:20:53, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                  No-one here I suspect hankers for "Communism".

                                                                                  You are displaying a complete and utter lack of understanding unfortunately.

                                                                                  It should be blindingly obvious to anyone that the days of prizing GDP over all else and letting the market decide are benefiting an increasingly small number of people.

                                                                                  It's time to shift the balance because if we don't we're all pretty much screwed anyway.

                                                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                    Posted by Honest on 7/11/2018, 16:24:09, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                    Good post. How we can ever change things is another matter.

                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                      Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 16:32:32, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                      Yes, that's the hard part unfortunately!

                                                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                    Posted by Journeyman on 7/11/2018, 16:16:34, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                    Or somewhere on the scale between that and totally unregulated and uncontrolled capitalism.

                                                                                    But you knew that really already didnít you?

                                                                                    Didnít you?

                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                      Posted by Spix's former employer on 7/11/2018, 16:15:49, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                      Best thing about capitalism is that it means employers can easily and cheaply get rid of incompetent employees.

                                                                                      Wouldn't you agree?

                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                        Posted by Spix the liar on 7/11/2018, 17:53:33, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                        Five times in fact.

                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 16:14:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                        What a load of ill--informed tosh.

                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                        Posted by Godders on 7/11/2018, 16:08:30, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                        +1

                                                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                          Posted by Spix on 7/11/2018, 16:05:27, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 15:30:42, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                        Hucknle?
                                                                                        Do try to be coherent in your stupidity.

                                                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                          Posted by Mahatma Gander on 7/11/2018, 15:24:57, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                          There's quite a competition building up but I think you are the new leader in the most stupid response to this thread stakes.

                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                      Posted by charlatans spivs and thieves on 7/11/2018, 14:50:09, in reply to "Austerity bites"

                                                                                      thank goodness for the 'crumbs from the table'

                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                        Posted by J Block on 7/11/2018, 14:48:34, in reply to "Austerity bites"

                                                                                        good on them

                                                                                          Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                          Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 18:25:05, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                          I read a post on an investment forum at the weekend, which I though was accurate.

                                                                                          People vote Labour as depending on the state removes the need to take responsibility for their own lives.



                                                                                          I do wonder if these people actually realise that someone has to pay for their benefits. Maybe so long as it isn't them it's ok, after all, they are owed it.

                                                                                          In fact I do know some who think that, I had the conversation with some I know and that is basically what they said.

                                                                                          Oh and if Persimmon picked a minimum wage worker and appointed them CEO, what would happen to the company.

                                                                                          People are not equal. Please just accept that as the fact it is.

                                                                                            Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                            Posted by Loot on 7/11/2018, 19:19:36, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                            >> I read a post on an investment forum at the weekend, which I though was accurate.

                                                                                            People vote Labour as depending on the state removes the need to take responsibility for their own lives. <<


                                                                                            There's eighteen words in that post that you think is accurate, and two thirds of them are tosh.


                                                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 19:49:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                              Thanks, Loot.

                                                                                              PS.

                                                                                              An investment forum doesn't sound like a place with much knowledge of the realities of life on the edge.

                                                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 20:10:44, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 20:42:22, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                              Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                              Posted by jimmyp on 7/11/2018, 18:51:59, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                              Well, you'd need a good run up to come out with a more comprehensively ridiculous, fatuous, downright cretinous and completely wrong, total set of bollocks in a hurry.

                                                                                              I suppose bravo for achieving some form of superlative, even if it seems somewhat paradoxical to describe it as such.

                                                                                              Cheers, Jim

                                                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                Posted by Solingen Hatter on 7/11/2018, 19:05:30, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                I think he might once have lived in Rochdale..

                                                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                  Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 19:09:03, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                  Nah. It's grim up north innit.

                                                                                                Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 18:39:10, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                Most people in work pay or have paid tax and National Insurance. When they become unemployed or ill, that is what taxes and National Insurance are for, to provide a safety net.


                                                                                                Your use of the term'these people' is very revealing of your attitude to those less fortunate than yourself.

                                                                                                  Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                  Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 18:44:50, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                  If they have paid in, I whole heartedly agree with you. Though depending on circumstances, time limited and/or capped.

                                                                                                  I am talking about career claimants, 2nd generation ones at that.

                                                                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 18:57:33, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                    You know what, I have never met any of these multi-generational claimants who supposedly infest our country.
                                                                                                    And when you say time-limited/capped, do you mean that someone who has developed a chronic degenerative illness that means they can't work should be left to starve after a set time? Or by capped, that if they need help to get around, and help in their daily life, that one of them is withdrawn if the rate goes over a certain amount? Or if a person with three children loses their job and can't find a job that pays equally well, one of the children has to go without food or clothing?

                                                                                                    Just think a bit.

                                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                      Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 19:14:54, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                      You take it very personally NaG. I know you have previously mentioned your own circumstance and that is understandable, I even stated that in those circumstances people need looking after.

                                                                                                      You haven't met multi generation benefit claimants. Really? There are plenty of them out there.

                                                                                                        Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 7/11/2018, 19:21:45, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                        I keep reading about them, mainly in government announcements, but no-one offers any proof.
                                                                                                        And no. I see people struggling in low-wage and part-time work, but don't know any of these mythical beings.

                                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                      Posted by HS on 7/11/2018, 18:50:08, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                      Can you be a career claimant now? I thought IDS put a stop to that?

                                                                                                    Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                    Posted by HS on 7/11/2018, 18:32:42, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                    Still doesn't give those CEO's the right to pay themselves hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses then pay their workers a minimum wage. by the way without these hard workers,said CEO would not have a pot to piss in.

                                                                                                      Re: Austerity bites

                                                                                                      Posted by Top Hats Tales on 7/11/2018, 18:41:40, in reply to "Re: Austerity bites"

                                                                                                      Surely the shareholders and/or remuneration committee decide how much they are paid?

                                                                                                      Hierarchy means you are most likely correct. They are paid for the job they do, as are those higher up. But that's the way it is, it was ever thus.

                                                                                                      I will say this.... I have known execs of listed companies make monumental balls ups, almost beyond belief, some I can't believe were not intentional. Then they end up on boards of other companies, rinse and repeat. So it seems once in those circles, they are sorted, regardless of results.

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