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    Rome advice

    Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 20:16:09

    In Rome for a couple of days shortly.

    Got the coliseum and vatican city down as "must do`s" one way or another. NOt that bothered about queuing for 2 hours for art museums. Pantheum and spanish steps also on a "desirable" list. ANy other tips? preferably without too much queuing eating into drinking time..

      Re: Rome advice

      Posted by Morph on 7/11/2018, 13:05:54, in reply to "Rome advice"

      I wouldn't bother with the Spanish steps mate, it is literally a flight of stairs. Glimpse at it as you walk by but doesn't need more than 2 seconds.

        Re: Rome advice

        Posted by Mr Alphabet on 7/11/2018, 7:47:31, in reply to "Rome advice"

        PreBook the Vatican and get the Tour of the Gardens also.... its not accessible via a normal entrance ticket and is wonderful.

        It also means you join a different queue and go in a separate entrance..... saves a couple hours at least !

          Re: Rome advice

          Posted by Dublin Tony on 7/11/2018, 11:32:36, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

          Isn,t there a full size steam train that runs down to the gardens

            Re: Rome advice

            Posted by Suffolk Punch on 7/11/2018, 12:26:31, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

            Not heard of one in Rome, but there is one in Naples. First railway built in Italy in 1839.

              Re: Rome advice

              Posted by Dublin Tony on 7/11/2018, 14:42:22, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

              IL Papa does have one for his 1/4 mile journey,odd but true.

          Re: Rome advice

          Posted by Abingdon Hatter on 6/11/2018, 22:50:38, in reply to "Rome advice"

          The church of San Clemente, is awesome. You go down underground to its previous incarnations ending up with it as a Roman Villa. Close to the Colosseum

            Re: Rome advice

            Posted by busway on 6/11/2018, 22:30:30, in reply to "Rome advice"

            Only problem with Rome is that after 2000 years or more it still isn't finished! Excavations everywhere!
            It's not that big so a couple of days should do the main sights.
            Went in the middle of October for about the 10th time.

              Re: Rome advice

              Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 22:06:36, in reply to "Rome advice"

              cheers all

                Re: Rome advice

                Posted by deeuu on 6/11/2018, 22:11:40, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                Pizza Hut on the corner of Pope Street is good value.

                  Re: Rome advice

                  Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 22:12:58, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                  WELL..it sort of counts as italian i guess...

                Re: Rome advice

                Posted by Dublin Tony on 6/11/2018, 21:21:01, in reply to "Rome advice"

                Navonah square 3 mins from pantheon have lunch there or dinner maybe , fabulous setting (Trevi fountain get up early beat the crowds, Spanish steps bit disappointing) pre book Vatican direct at Vatican.com enjoy sure you will

                  Re: Rome advice: One of the best restaurants

                  Posted by Gut City Hatter on 6/11/2018, 21:20:28, in reply to "Rome advice"

                  Try visiting the restaurant "La Cisterna": see http://lacisterna.com/gb/historia.htm. The address is: La Cisterna
                  Via della cisterna, 13
                  Tel. 06-58.125.43
                  I think the website also offers online translation into English. The restaurant is in the historic old town area of Trastervere, near the Vatican. The name refers to the original well, which you can possibly visit. You go down a long spiral staircase, through several layers of ancient Rome, and it's an incredible experience. The food is bloody good too (at least it was when I visited there about 25 years ago). If you go there, I guarantee it is something you will remember forever. COYH!

                    Re: Rome advice

                    Posted by Shropshire Hatter on 6/11/2018, 21:08:41, in reply to "Rome advice"

                    If queues for the colosseum and forum are long itís usually much quicker to buy a ticket that allows entry to both but from the booth by the forum do the forum first then jump the ticket queue for the colosseum

                    Eating wise worth visiting the Trastevere area around the Basilica of Santa Maria, lively, mainly locals, and good value restaurants.

                      Re: Rome advice

                      Posted by Gut City Hatter on 6/11/2018, 21:28:00, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                      This echoes my comments above about restaurants - in particular, La Cisterna, see above (the area is spelt "Trastevere", BTW, - which means "across the Tiber", but I got the wrong spelling from the restaurant's website).

                        Re: Rome advice

                        Posted by Shropshire Hatter on 6/11/2018, 21:12:14, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                        PS, if you are feeling flush, a scooter/Vespa tour is great fun and takes you to most of the sights listed below.

                        We are not flush, we had to save up 😀

                        Re: Rome advice

                        Posted by Harry Cornicks hair on 6/11/2018, 20:55:53, in reply to "Rome advice"

                        Try an open top bus tour, that way the mobs of street sellers can't get at you, it drives you mad.

                          Re: Rome advice

                          Posted by bbb on 6/11/2018, 20:51:03, in reply to "Rome advice"

                          Not like you to be off on hollibobs chum....

                            Re: Rome advice

                            Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 20:58:04, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                            2 nights doesnt qualify as hollibobs

                            Re: Rome advice

                            Posted by HemHat on 6/11/2018, 20:39:40, in reply to "Rome advice"

                            As others have said pantheon and trevi fountain.
                            Plus the Roman forum next to the coliseum

                              Re: Rome advice

                              Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/11/2018, 21:02:43, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                              Villa Borghese is fantastic, an absolute must. Trastevere has some great restaurants and bars.

                              The Vatican museum is a total rip off, and you're just herded through. The Sistene Chapel is a joke - uniformed attendants yelling "silenzio" at you through megaphone every couple of minutes.

                                Re: Rome advice

                                Posted by since 63 on 6/11/2018, 21:04:52, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                agree with that about the Vatican, it's like a production line.

                                  Re: Rome advice

                                  Posted by HemHat on 7/11/2018, 9:03:18, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                  We weren't allowed in as it was the middle of summer and my mrs had her shoulders uncovered and refused to buy a scarf to cover them up

                                    Re: Rome advice

                                    Posted by Suffolk Punch on 7/11/2018, 10:11:03, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                    Good for her. A lot of cathedrals we've visited will give women a paper shawl to cover their shoulders (what century is the Catholic church living in?) But not St Peter's. The Vatican is one huge cash cow.

                              Re: Rome advice

                              Posted by M.A.T. on 6/11/2018, 20:39:09, in reply to "Rome advice"

                              Paletine Hull and Roman Forum, the latter used to be free. However, it costs now and it is cheaper if you get a ticket that covers both plus the Collesium. I havent been for a few years but you used to get reduced rate as being part of the EU,you had to show your passport for proof. Not sure that EU discount still applies. Nice think about Rome is that many pf the sights are close to each other

                                Re: Rome advice

                                Posted by since 63 on 6/11/2018, 20:33:19, in reply to "Rome advice"

                                i was in Rome last June, brilliant city, Pantheon is amazing 2000 years old and pristine, the Coliseum is well worth an all-day visit to do it justice, the Vatican you need to prebook or the queue is horrendous. the Spanish steps are worth a visit as right opposite in the amongst the shops are some really nice restaurants. my favourite beer was "Peroni Gran reserva double malt" bloody lovely. i am sure you will enjoy Rome.

                                  Re: Rome advice

                                  Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 20:39:23, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                  Is there a queue just to basically wander round the vatican? Not that bothered about going into its many museums. Not religious either (but do find some religious sites fascinating for the history if you know what i mean) .

                                  And all day at the coliseum is out due to limited time frame..we are staying about 1500 metres from it though

                                  Definitely more of a 30 minute seen it taken a billion photos and wheres the next bar type person that a spend 4 hours marvelling at a painting type!

                                    Re: Rome advice

                                    Posted by Teacher on 6/11/2018, 21:20:14, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                    You only need to spend an hour or so at the Colisseum.
                                    I'd recommend spending time in Trastevere and Testacccio. Both amazing neighbourhoods. Atmospheric and fantastic restaurants.

                                      Re: Rome advice

                                      Posted by since 63 on 6/11/2018, 20:45:06, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                      it is sort of like a production line visit if you want to visit the sisteen chapel, they just keep you moving until you come out into St Peters Basilica. so not really able to just wander round.

                                        Re: Rome advice

                                        Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/11/2018, 21:13:57, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                        St Peter's Square in the Vatican is worth seeing, as is the Basilica if you can stand the Catholic bling (I couldn't, so left). Be prepared to fight your way through the goggles of Chinese taking selfies.

                                          Re: Rome advice

                                          Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 21:28:14, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                          tbh if i can get to st peters square and take a few pics without much queuing i`m not that bothered about the museums in the vatican or the sistine (wouldnt mind the sistine but not with 2 hours queue and not with a production line!).

                                          Never get the selfie obsession..take a photo of a place...not half a photo with your gurning mug in it!

                                            Re: Rome advice

                                            Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/11/2018, 22:09:24, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                            You can walk round the square no problem. You can even visit the post office on it and send home a post card with a Vatican stamp.

                                              Re: Rome advice

                                              Posted by Suffolk Punch on 6/11/2018, 22:20:15, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                              Fontana del Naiadi imo is more spectacular than the Trevi, which will be surrounded by the Chinese taking selfies that aren't taking selfies in St Peter's basilica. Pantheon well worth visiting, and close to both fountains.

                                              Google the Villa Borhese, it's full of treasures and you're limited to a two hour slot with restricted numbers so you can actually see everything. Situated in a very nice park. You won't regret visiting it.

                                              If you're flying into Ciampino, it's smaller and much less crowded than Fumicino.

                                                Re: Rome advice

                                                Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 22:13:38, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                                have they never heard of email? or facebook?

                                      Re: Rome advice

                                      Posted by Hmmm on 6/11/2018, 20:28:12, in reply to "Rome advice"

                                      Catacombs on the outskirts are worth a visit, bus trip.

                                        Re: Rome advice

                                        Posted by Cyber-savvy psycho on 6/11/2018, 20:27:28, in reply to "Rome advice"

                                        Do as they do.

                                          Re: Rome advice

                                          Posted by St Evenage Hatter on 6/11/2018, 20:23:32, in reply to "Rome advice"

                                          The Aventine Keyhole

                                          Mouth of Truth

                                          Google them. Both free - the Keyhole is a bit of a walk.

                                          Get the audio thing for the Coleseum and the tour of the 'basements' if you can.

                                            Re: Rome advice

                                            Posted by The Outsider on 6/11/2018, 20:19:35, in reply to "Rome advice"

                                            Trevi Fountain ?

                                              Re: Rome advice

                                              Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 20:33:53, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                              yep that was on the list as well..just forgot to type it

                                                Re: Rome advice

                                                Posted by since 63 on 6/11/2018, 20:36:26, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                                from the Spanish steps, most places are within a 20 min walk.

                                                  Re: Rome advice

                                                  Posted by The Outsider on 6/11/2018, 20:45:49, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                                  Get one of those "hop on, hop off" type buses. Take you to all of the touristy places and you can get on and off as often as you like.

                                                    Re: Rome advice

                                                    Posted by NIck PBH on 6/11/2018, 20:59:39, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                                    Now that could work (Also been suggested above!)

                                                      Re: Rome advice

                                                      Posted by The Outsider on 6/11/2018, 21:07:38, in reply to "Re: Rome advice"

                                                      We were only in Rome for part of a day whilst on a cruise 18 years ago so caught the train in from the port, did the bus tour and got off to go to a few places that we wanted to look at where we knew there wouldn't be big queues. If you are not careful you spend so long queuing to do one thing that you miss out on a lot of others.

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