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    LBC's questions to Indigo

    Posted by RADSB on 10/10/2018, 11:51:55

    LBC's letter of 2nd October to Indigo contains the section below. I read it that 2020's enabling development claim has been deemed irrelevant to the planning decision. They have therefore asked them to withdraw all the financial info.
    This could be read either way -
    if NP is approved then there can be no claim that the decision was made in order to secure PC.
    Or, is it preparation for LBC to refuse NP and approve PC as C&R suggest?
    Any views?

      Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

      Posted by City Gent on 10/10/2018, 13:10:55, in reply to "LBC's questions to Indigo"

      The financial viability of a scheme has the square root of fuck all to do with the planning elements, why it was ever entertained by 2020 I'll never know, I suppose they trying the keep everyone Sweet.

      I read that as good news, LBC deleting the request for irrelevant but commercially sensitive information regarding the application.

        Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

        Posted by cybermat on 10/10/2018, 14:04:42, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

        Maybe all the C&R requests under Freedom of Information has been a part of the reason for this?

        Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

        Posted by crumpsall on 10/10/2018, 11:56:15, in reply to "LBC's questions to Indigo"

        The former, I'd say.

        All good.

          Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

          Posted by RADSB on 10/10/2018, 12:50:25, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

          That was my view too. C&R are full of huff, puff, bluff and guff*.

          * copyright J Block

            Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

            Posted by Philthehatter on 10/10/2018, 12:02:05, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

            I ain't got a clue what this is all about

              Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 10/10/2018, 14:57:55, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

              Somewhere in one of the reports published earlier today or last night, it was stated that NP is a 'facilitating' development rather than an 'enabling' one.

              Don't know if that adds to the understanding or deepens the confusion.

                Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                Posted by azores hatter on 10/10/2018, 15:47:27, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                am i thick? it reads to me that 2020 cannot claim this is one application and they must be separate, which makes it easier for them to reject NP while granting PC which is playing right into C&R's hands.
                yet 2020 have costantly claimed PC cannot go ahead without the money from NP which if true scuppers everything.
                if i am wrong don't just tell me i'm wrong explain how i am wrong

                  Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                  Posted by RADSB on 10/10/2018, 16:08:39, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                  LBC are saying that the financial link between NP and PC is not to be part of the planning application to be decided upon. It is not a consideration for the Planning Committee. This closes the door on C&R who could possibly appeal on the grounds that LBC only approved NP so PC could be built.

                    Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                    Posted by azores hatter on 10/10/2018, 16:35:40, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                    don't be daft RADSB, that cat's out of the bag, we all know the two developments are linked, it's been public knowledge for two years. If LBC grant both and then say they granted them as separate entities do you think the fuckers at C&R will just sit back and say OK, they will go straight to all the previous publicity and documents. if anything i think that leaves us wide open for further action and delays

                    Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 10/10/2018, 16:18:23, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                    Although didn't the Planning Inspector rule that the two are linked?

                    Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                    Posted by Hmmm on 10/10/2018, 15:59:19, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                    You'll have to explain how you came to your conclusion from that statement first.

                      Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                      Posted by azores hatter on 10/10/2018, 16:19:40, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                      the first two paragraphs in the above C&P.

                      2020 provided financial evidence that one development requires the other and now LBC want that information removed, the words in the first paragraph, (you have sought to promote NP as simply providing cross funding for the otherwise non viable development of PC) OTHERWISE NON VIABLE.

                      this undeniably links the two developments, but if the financial evidence provided by 2020 is removed it becomes easier to look at the two as separate from one another and therefore easier to deny one and grant the other.

                      if i am wrong and i hope i am tell where i am.

                      perhaps C&R would like to chip in the funding for PC as they are so supportive of it and have offered to work with 2020

                        Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 10/10/2018, 16:24:17, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                        Do 2020 want to be reliant on funding from that bunch of spivs?

                          Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                          Posted by azores hatter on 10/10/2018, 16:43:04, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                          probably not NAG, but do we want that new stadium?
                          and do C&R want to get back into the good books of the people of Luton? if they don,t then they are even worse business men than i thought.

                            Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                            Posted by Music Critic on 10/10/2018, 16:51:22, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                            I read it that it was proof of the financial viability of Newlands (2020 being able to build it in the first place) that LBC were asking for, which they are now not

                            In planning terms they obviously know that without Newlands there will be no PC so have linked them in that way

                              Re: LBC's questions to Indigo

                              Posted by azores hatter on 10/10/2018, 17:12:53, in reply to "Re: LBC's questions to Indigo"

                              i do hope you are right, that is a lot lot less worrying if you are

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