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    Bravo Donald Trump

    Posted by J Block on 12/6/2018, 8:41:07

    Robert De Niro, #### you.

      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

      Posted by Farhat on 12/6/2018, 12:57:31, in reply to "Bravo Donald Trump"

      Never thought I'd see the day when Russia was applauded by the British.

        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

        Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 12:59:14, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

        Traitors. Pure and simple.

        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

        Posted by Assange on 12/6/2018, 12:04:59, in reply to "Bravo Donald Trump"

        +1

          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

          Posted by RADSB on 12/6/2018, 9:27:28, in reply to "Bravo Donald Trump"


            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

            Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 9:14:11, in reply to "Bravo Donald Trump"

            Bravo for what?

            Have you read the joint statement? It contains the sum total of #### all!

              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

              Posted by Lee on 12/6/2018, 9:20:18, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

              If Obama was over doing what trump is it would be a different story though wouldn't it.

                Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                Posted by RAFhatter on 12/6/2018, 10:16:16, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                Fox news, Trump and all of his cheer leaders were calling Obama a traitor for even suggesting that opening a dialogue with NK would be a good idea. Funny how it is now a great idea now that Trump is doing it.

                In around 18 months, Trump has isolated most of the US' closest allies, pretty much everyone else in the G7. Specifically attacking Canada, seems strange especially as it was against the backdrop of wanting Russia brought back into the fold (despite the multitude of reasons why they were excluded in the first place still existing). Slagged off NATO spending from within the EU, seemingly not understanding that all other members of NATO aren't members of the EU. Abandoned a nuclear treaty in Iran, which whilst it wasn't perfect, was working (seemingly out of spite just because it was brought in under the Obama presidency), cosied up to Chinese corporations and blown up any chance of a Middle East peace dialogue through a pointless gesture of moving the American embassy to Jerusalem.

                If there is any chance of denuclearisation of the Korean peninsular, there would have to be compromise. I'm guessing that at the very least Pyong Yang would want is the removal of US Troops from Japan and South Korea. The Chinese and Russians would be overjoyed about that.

                  Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                  Posted by J Block on 12/6/2018, 10:35:18, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"


                    Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                    Posted by HH on 12/6/2018, 13:27:29, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                    Do you only get offended when people are rude to those who have served when you personally know them?

                    http://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/msg/1528664251.html

                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                      Posted by J Block on 12/6/2018, 13:40:57, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                      thanks for your input

                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                        Posted by HH on 12/6/2018, 13:44:16, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                        Iíll take that as a yes.

                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                          Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 13:45:40, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                          He called me an odd individual and I fought in a war for the likes of him.

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by J Block on 12/6/2018, 14:00:09, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            and then you met me, and said what?

                              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                              Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 14:08:31, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                              Don't hit me please?

                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                      Posted by RAFhatter on 12/6/2018, 10:57:57, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                      I can't see the image because I'm on a works computer, but I'm assuming it is your usual intellectually challenged ####wittery.

                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                        Posted by J Block on 12/6/2018, 11:02:07, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                        correct

                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                        Posted by Gammon Spotter on 12/6/2018, 10:41:37, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                        Gammon

                    Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                    Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 9:37:37, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                    Yes, it would.

                    For a start the meeting would have been conducted the right way round, with extensive communication between diplomats of both sides before the event so that when the two leaders met it would be able to have some actual substance rather than simply providing a photo shoot opportunity for two massive egos.

                    What could they possibly achieve meeting up 'cold'? A joint statement with absolutely nothing new in it, that's what. And that's what we got.

                    It's a ludicrous way of conducting a serious diplomatic engagement, and probably the main achievement is to elevate KJU's status.

                    That's why it has been greeted with disdain, even among many of Trump's supporters.

                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                      Posted by Lee on 12/6/2018, 12:56:22, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                      Normal diplomatic channels have not worked to well up to now have they, with a maverick in charge who seems to be getting things done with out the war we would have had by now if killary had got in.

                      But none of that will fit with the everything Trump does is bad rhetoric will it. I am still waiting for him to be impeached like all the political experts on here decried would happen?

                      wont last 6 months

                      wont last 12 months

                      wont last 18 months.......



                      The bloke is far from perfect but he is not the man many portray him to be either.

                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                        Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 13:04:08, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                        No different than the 'everything Obama did was bad' rhetoric or referring to Clinton as Killary and asserting as if it was fact that there would have been a war.

                        It's all very polarised, isn't it? Would be a lot better if people didn't 'take sides' of course and could see things in a more complex perspective but that doesn't seem to be the way any more.

                        I have seen clear and consistent lying from Trump and nothing he has done so far has convinced me that he is fit for, or capable of, the job he has.

                        But onions vary, as they say - and long may that last!

                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                          Posted by Lee on 12/6/2018, 13:26:41, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                          Go and spend a few hours reading the leaked emails from killary, pretty clear they way she wanted to go or go and read John Pilger and you will see the same.

                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                      Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 9:48:06, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                      errrrr.......Your second para is EXACTLY what did happen. You think they just tuned up at Sing and hoped for the best? The diplomacy was done before this in its entirety. Sing WAS just a photo shoot. Job done. Now on to sorting the Iran situation Mr Trump.

                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                        Posted by Assange on 12/6/2018, 12:09:37, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                        100 per cent mate

                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                          Posted by KS on 12/6/2018, 9:57:51, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                          You should listen to Crumps. He saw what happened when Neville Chamberlain came back from Munich.

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 10:00:21, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            Bit mean that. I'm no spring chicken myself. Retired MOD bod.

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 9:51:24, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            Well that's very odd IP, as there is no evidence of that and all the commentators are saying to the contrary.

                            What are your sources?

                              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                              Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 9:56:35, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                              Crumps, I assure you the diplomatic discussions have been ongoing for months. No missile launches and no nuclear testing for 7 months. Not a coincidence. This is a good day my friend. We all know about Trump and his problems and the press will be depressed at this fantastic step and will now ficus on why the USA shouldn't be negotiating with a dictator or a country with a terrible human rights record.

                                Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 10:10:33, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                Don't you mean NK shouldn't be negotiating with a dictator of a country with a terrible human rights record?

                                Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 10:04:37, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                IP, with all due respect I assure you is not providing a source is it? I too have been following this closely and there has been general dismay from commentators and from US politicians - both democrats and republicans - that no 'real' diplomatic structures or relations have been applied to this event. What evidence have you that they are wrong and you are right?

                                If, as an aside, you were right, then wouldn't you be disappointed with the complete lack of any new substance in the joint statement? Have you read it?

                                Sorry, but for me blind faith just because I want it to be true is simply not enough. Fair enough if that's sufficient for you.

                                  Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                  Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 10:09:51, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                  Crumps I get your scepticism. These are strange times and the leader of the free world is like nothing we've seen before. Ever! You might be looking in the wrong place for the evidence of the diplomatic activity and if you look in the right place you'll find very little 'news' as is normal for the way that country operate. Singapore would never have happened without China.

                                    Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                    Posted by crumpsall on 12/6/2018, 10:25:05, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                    Well, where is the 'right place' then?

                                    And why have US diplomats of both parties been saying there has been no proper structure to this event?

                                    I agree with you totally about China, by the way. And from the NK side we might well not expect any info. But I'm referring to the USA.

                                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                      Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 10:41:26, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                      All I need to know Crumps is the nuclear countdown clock just clicked back 1 second. That's good enough for me, my children and grand children. The press will do their utmost to pour cold water all over this but it doesn't matter. President Trump has ended up here because he allows his emotions to lead and he can't keep off Twitter (Rocket Man). President Xi had to intervene and he did, months ago when the rhetoric went too far (fire and fury). Trump didn't like it at first until he realised this was a win-win for him and the USA. Part of the deal will be to scale back US military presence in the region. The US cannot afford to continue it in any case. This much Trump has understood from day 1 in office. He knows his country is bankrupt the one thing he understands better than most is money. The only diplomacy from the US side was to agree to have a summit where North Korea and the USA were seen as equals. This is a big concession from a country used to flexing its muscles and getting its way (Vietnam aside). It is a potential vote loser for Trump which is why I am applauding him. Without his willingness to take this risk then even pressure from China wouldn't have helped. So it's good news all round for the USA and consequently the rest of us too.

                                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 10:45:29, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                        Surely it doesn't matter to him that it is a vote loser? He didn't win the popular vote at the election.

                                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                          Posted by IP on 12/6/2018, 11:00:09, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                          The electoral college system still uses votes NAG. There will be a lot of Trump supporters who are not happy with this whole legitimisation of Nth Korea. It's risky for him.

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by Captain Andrea Sparklet on 12/6/2018, 9:47:04, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            +1

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by Yippee on 12/6/2018, 9:23:13, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            He would be nominated for a peace prize

                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                          Posted by Inter Vermin on 12/6/2018, 8:44:56, in reply to "Bravo Donald Trump"

                          Yep, one despot (Trump) caving in to another.

                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                            Posted by ThatGnakpaGoal on 12/6/2018, 12:32:28, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                            For all the President Trump haters, can anyone tell me what he has done wrong?
                            I'd be delighted if we could have him run our country!

                              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                              Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 12:49:26, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                              Repealed Obamacare
                              Pulled out of the treaty with Iran
                              Refused to sign the climate change treaty
                              Gave permission for an oil pipeline across a sacred Native American burial ground.
                              Refused to condemn the KKK killing in Carolina.
                              And that's just off the top of my head without looking things up.

                                Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                Posted by ThatGnakpaGoal on 12/6/2018, 13:13:16, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                Obamacare didn't actually care about it's people.
                                Iran deal hadn't stuck to their agreement...waste of money! Us the U.K are paying a country not to make Nuclear weapons!!! Hmmm
                                Paris climate accord is garbage....written on toilet paper. US has reduced it's carbon footprint more since it's come out of deal than when it was in. PCA is basically a weight watchers group where applicant's get a wristband!
                                P Trump took time to evaluate the situation that happened in Carolina before commenting. He condemned BOTH sides! Libtards were disgraceful, i urge you to research!

                                Anything else you have?

                                  Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                  Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 13:22:40, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                  He's done nothing to reduce the carbon footprint, and doesn't believe in man-made climate change. He is also supporting a return to coal-fired power.
                                  Condemned both sides? So a peaceful protest is as bad as murdering someone?
                                  The Paris Climate agreement is at least trying to do something.

                                  I think you should stop,reading fake news sites.


                                  And what about his strop at the G7 because none of the other countries agreed with his opinion on Russia?
                                  Very mature.

                                    Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                    Posted by ThatGnakpaGoal on 12/6/2018, 13:38:55, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                    Unfortunately it look's as though it is yourself who has been blinded by the mainstream media. If you take time to research, rather than depend on the media, you'll find that they HAVE reduced their carbon footprint.
                                    The Paris Climate agreement is rubbish, the U.K are not doing enough, yet because we're signed up, we get to wear the green wristband! We could easily do better ourselves as a country, yet our government doesn't push us to do it. Why not come out of the agreement which costs us billions of pounds each year because we don't reach our targets and use that money to provide free public transport? Why not, because that would effect our motor industry. If our country cared that much, we would be doing more. Do you know who collects and distributes the money that countries pays in fines??? Take a look!

                                    He did condemn both sides. Again, I urge you to research video footage of the day. Any situation where a life is lost is unfortunate. Yet the liberals (That's to please Pogue) behavior during this day, before this day and after this day has been disgusting and embarrassing!

                                    People may dislike him for his attitude but he defends his country and he has achieved more in his short tenure than any other President, that's a FACT!

                                    Hey, I was once like you, I listened and trusted what i heard from the media, but then I decided to educate myself on the truth. I'll try and help you, take a look a Ben Shapiro.

                                    Do you think North Korea talks with South Korea would have happened without the help of the US?

                                    Do you know that President Trump hasn't taken a dime since taking power?

                                    Do you know that President Trump has reduced unemployment from 10% down to 3%?

                                    Do you know that their GDP has seen growth in each quarter?

                                    You won't see this unless you research bud.

                                      Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                      Posted by Soon to be free Assange on 12/6/2018, 14:33:54, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                      Gnakpa, your wasting your time with this one, completely buried her head in the sand. We need a leader like Trump here, but sadly all we have is a bunch of wet flannels.

                                        Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 13:49:58, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                        He hasn't submitted his tax returns either.
                                        And he's costing the US taxpayer thousands by spending every weekend in Florida and needing to have security bods
                                        .
                                        Behaviour is the correct spelling here. You should edit your copy and pasting.
                                        Apparently, UK unemployment is at an all-time low, doesn't stop in-work benefits being at an all-time high. A proper measure would be whether or not people can live on their wages, not having to be propped up because of appallingly low wage rates.

                                          Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                          Posted by ThatGnakpaGoal on 12/6/2018, 17:24:58, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                          You mean the MSNBC's hour special from Rachel Maddow regarding President Trumps taxes proved he had paid? haha.

                                          "Spending every weekend in Florida", a bit of an exaggeration. But I agree, it does cost the taxpayers, wherever he goes. Unfortunately, there is much hatred towards him from the likes of Antifa (Who also cost the taxpayers money with their marches and anti social behaviour). But hey, let's focus on the bad guy.

                                          Thank's for picking me up on my spelling.

                                          I also agree, our own government is a mess. Something has to change.

                                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                            Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 13:51:47, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                            Don't bother Maggie...he get's his 'news' from InfoWars.

                                              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                              Posted by ThatGnakpaGoal on 12/6/2018, 17:26:22, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                              Close bud, but Shapiro is from Daily Wire. I think you mean Alex Jones from Infowars.
                                              His colleague, Owen Shroyer is decent.

                                                Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                                Posted by Nearly a Genius on 12/6/2018, 14:00:37, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                              Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                              Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 13:43:01, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                              Ben fucking Shapiro?

                                              The Hillary Clinton has a paedo ring killing kids in the cellar of a Pizza restaurant bloke?

                                              Oh my fucking days.

                                            Re: Bravo Donald Trump

                                            Posted by Pogue Mahone on 12/6/2018, 13:19:06, in reply to "Re: Bravo Donald Trump"

                                            "Libtards"

                                            Fucking hell.

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