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    Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

    Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 10:59:19

    My word, the place is absolutely hated, a lot of it from people calling a texting their experiences.

    Nail on the head, they said middle class people totally avoid the place and all the middle class chain brands you find in most other towns are vacant from Luton, a million fried chicken shops but no Zizzi no Prezzo etc.

    The host from Harpenden said when he was growing up a lot of people in Harpenden came to Luton to share and spend a few hours in the town centre, now if you asked people in Harpenden if they would go to Luton, hardly anyone would choose Luton.

    Apparently the town centre has got a purple flag award for safety. Which cost £3k and the people who visited to give out the award, came to the town once.

    #saveourtown

      Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

      Posted by MetalHatter on 16/5/2018, 12:03:11, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

      Tbh the last thing any town needs are bloody Zizzi's, Prezzo's and the like. Some nice independent restaurants and cafes would be a lot nicer...Though anything is better than the current state.

        Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

        Posted by RGDave on 16/5/2018, 11:34:20, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

        Most people who slag off the town, don't live here. It fulfills a need for them. Saying that, it was more lively 25 years ago. Let's get the Stadium built asap.

        Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

        Posted by HeathHatter on 16/5/2018, 11:17:56, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

        Things can change.

        Places like Birmingham and Sheffield have been transformed in recent years. The same can happen in Luton.

        #saveourtown

          Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

          Posted by EastEnder on 16/5/2018, 11:11:53, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

          Isn't purple flag award for Luton's night-time economy?

          6 pubs and 300 fried chicken shops.

            Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

            Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:19:41, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

            Some of them chicken shops are Peri Peri now.

            There are some nice food places in Luton, but the streets outside do not feel safe, and are not safe.

            St George Square is like a Mr Bumbles beer garden.

              Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

              Posted by EastEnder on 16/5/2018, 11:21:57, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

              Think the award was for Luton being a safe place at night or something - prob cos most of the stabbings take place in daytime as there's nothing to do at night in town.

                Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:32:27, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                The place is unsafe 24/7 remember the police officer was stabbed to death at like 7am.

                We got to many homeless people for a start permanently in the town centre, then drug dependent people, begging, and people virtually following people around trying to get you to give them money or cigarettes, to the point you are virtually being mugged.

                Dossers and Eastern European mainly men, drinking in town on the walls and benches because it's cheaper than the pubs.

                Not sure how many on outlaws visit the town on a non matchday especially after the Mall closes, but I reckon to see the full scale of the problem spend an hour walking from the station into the town centre, then venture over to the White House then through the square up George Street down towards Park Street and then back to the railway station, High Town and the side streets heading up to Farley Hill are just as menacing.

                Tackling homelessness in my opinion is key to cleaning up the town centre.

                  Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                  Posted by RGDave on 16/5/2018, 13:29:26, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                  I agree the beggars in the town and especially around the Train Station are bloody irritating but you've hugely overreacted there. I've been wandering about the town for 27 years and never had a problem. Most problems in the town happen on the estates in the main. It was ever thus.

                    Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                    Posted by Nearly a Genius on 16/5/2018, 13:17:43, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                    B#####ks
                    I go to Luton in the daytime. And I make it out again.

                      Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                      Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 15:31:20, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                      It is more unsafe for young men, and teenagers that are not into crime and gangs those walking alone, luckily for you NaG you haven't been unlucky yet, but my mum was robbed in the town centre before, until it happens to you, you can say b####cks.

                      What time do you venture into Luton? Do you walk through George Street or St George Square in the dark or in the evening alone?

                      I have grown up in the town, I feel less safe now than I ever did, I am not scared but I feel very aware and do not feel at all relaxed, I used to feel relaxed going into Luton and less relaxed on the estates, now it is the same all over.

                      Obviously mine is personal to me, as yours is personal to you.

                      My group of friends shun anything to do with socialising in Luton pretty much these days, partly due to money and ease of going to another town and partly due to Luton being a drab place that will not be as good a place to visit as say St Alban's, London even Hitchin

                        Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                        Posted by Nearly a Genius on 16/5/2018, 15:51:50, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                        Sorry for your mum's experience.
                        No, I don't have reason to go to George St./St. George's Square after dark, unless it's in the winter and I'm a bit later than usual going to the library. However, young women of my acquaintance won't even go into town in the middle of the day, which seems a bit over cautious.
                        I feel more nervous walking home down Parkside Drive after a night match than being in Luton during the day.

                          Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                          Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 16:41:31, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                          Cheers, Yes Houghton is a bit of a wild place.

                          Overall though this purple flag thing LBC has gone for has in my opinion been a huge own goal, it has reopened old news stories and given platform for people from inside and outside the town the chance to vent their personal opinion on the town, and as we all know it is not a good place, but probably no worse than many other places in Great Britain.

                          I hope #saveourtown can take a bit of advantage of the heightend by media coverage, to show what is proposed with PC and NP to game change the town.

                    Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                    Posted by EastEnder on 16/5/2018, 11:33:54, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                    Most large towns and cities have similar probs to be fair.

                    They just generally also have better shops and more things to do.

                      Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                      Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:43:09, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                      This is also true, the difference in Luton is that gigantic wall of nothingness that separates and stretches out the town centre into wide gaps between pubs, even Park Street has lost a few pubs, preferred the London Hatter to the White House for example.

                      Power Court will link up well with the pubs by the station and also the pubs near Church Street at the Park Street end of the town centre, it will also boost High Town I think.

                        Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                        Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:45:52, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                        Wall of nothingness = Meant the Mall especially after 6pm

                          Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                          Posted by EastEnder on 16/5/2018, 11:45:50, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                          True - but towns with high streets etc... with lots of pubs close together usually end up with loads of fighting and drunkenness at weekends and people would complain about that too.

                            Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                            Posted by HH on 16/5/2018, 11:44:58, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                            London Hatter was much better than the White House

                            Can't believe they closed it down

                              Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                              Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:49:25, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                              Amen, also cannot believe another chain didn't take it on. I think it is still sitting there, the decor in that pub cost over £1m andI think it only lasted 4 years.

                              Even the pub across the road which used to be full of students is no more, students no longer have the same drinking habits it would seem.

                                Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                                Posted by HH on 16/5/2018, 12:03:55, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                                Itís a shame as they made a real effort in the London Hatter, losts of old Luton photos etc on the walls and it felt like a pub most importantly

                                Youíre right about the place opposite, I remember it from when I was at college and back in Luton during summers between university

                                That place used to be heaving on a Thursday night, queues going down Park St to get in. All the students used to start in there on a Friday or Saturday.

                                From what Iíve heard itís part of the university bar but not open to the public

                                  Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                                  Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 12:20:31, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                                  Yes that is right, although every evening I pass through that end of town it always seems closed, so not sure if it ever opens, maybe this closing had something to do with the London Hatter closing as less people go that far down the road anymore from the town centre at the top of the road.

                                  I just hope once Power Court opens this wakes Luton up, it could be a great place, most other large towns seem to have a better night life to Luton.

                                  Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                                  Posted by EastEnder on 16/5/2018, 11:58:21, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                                  There's not really a huge demand for more pubs is there?

                                  people go to pub much less than they used to, apart from maybe to eat out more than in past, but they are usually much less busy during the week.

                  Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                  Posted by crumpsall on 16/5/2018, 11:05:21, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                  Any mention of the plans and C&R's opposition?

                  Regeneration, not stagnation....

                    Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                    Posted by Howzatter on 16/5/2018, 11:08:21, in reply to "Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                    Only caught after 10.30am good call by a bloke called Tyson I think he was into the music scene, and a Lutonian for 30 years, very honest call.

                    Would of been good if someone from #saveourtown had got on, they may of done before 10.30am, I'll try and listen later on their website.

                    Re: Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton

                    Posted by HH on 16/5/2018, 11:01:50, in reply to "Just caught 15 mins of 3CR host & callers slagging off the town centre of Luton"

                    Itís so true. My Dad hasnít been shopping in Luton town centre for years and heís lived there his whole life. And my Mum will only go if she absolutely has to and usually gets down there for about 9am so sheís away by 10am.

                    Itís just not a pleasant place, unless youíre going drinking - then itís not too bad.

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