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    Nice club, Chelsea

    Posted by Boyd Crowder’s Collar on 12/1/2018, 13:37:45
    149.241.50.180

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/12/graham-rix-gwyn-williams-accused-racism-bullying-chelsea

    Wonder if players that have complained ever made it as professionals?

    Scum club

      Re: Nice club, Chelsea

      Posted by EastEnder on 12/1/2018, 13:46:13, in reply to "Nice club, Chelsea"
      213.205.251.166

      yeah but these days Brian Clough would be sacked for bullying and wouldn't have won any European cups.

      I'm sure they get paid enough to handle it - apart from the racism, which isn't on obviously.

        Re: Nice club, Chelsea

        Posted by Exile on 12/1/2018, 14:09:51, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
        31.221.96.100

        I think it's a bit glib to draw such a clear distinction between outright bullying and racism (which, arguably, is a form of bullying). Surely they're both unacceptable for very similar (or even exactly the same) reasons?

          Re: Nice club, Chelsea

          Posted by EastEnder on 12/1/2018, 14:16:18, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
          213.205.251.166

          Yeah but it defends how you define bullying. Cloughie basically famously bullied Justin Fashanu and I'm sure other Forest Players too - although some of it wouldn't have been called bullying then.

          Fergie's hairdryer treatment could be called bullying.

          I see Peter Beardsley is now allegedly a racist bully which doesn't fit with how most of us perceived him.

          What is bullying?

            Re: Nice club, Chelsea

            Posted by IP on 12/1/2018, 18:13:53, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
            45.56.156.7

            I you knowingly and intentionally make someone feel shit you are a bully. Simples.

              Re: Nice club, Chelsea

              Posted by Exile on 12/1/2018, 15:14:53, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
              31.221.96.100

              It always depends on how you define anything, which why a glib 'oh they get paid loads to handle it' strikes me as glib.

              If the bullying was systematic, malicious, involved singling out specific players unnecessarily etc. - and more than just an occasional full team hairdryer - it was wrong. The salaries invovled are irrelevant.

                Re: Nice club, Chelsea

                Posted by EastEnder on 12/1/2018, 16:57:44, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
                81.159.131.127

                Just read the accusations blimey it's pretty bad - basically calling the black players wogs, coons and nig-nogs every day.

                Re: Nice club, Chelsea

                Posted by Bootin on 12/1/2018, 15:01:29, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
                86.154.250.137

                My National Service days would now be called bullying as were my schooldays. None of which ever bothered me....how times and peoples inner strength have declined.

                  Re: Nice club, Chelsea

                  Posted by Exile on 12/1/2018, 15:10:29, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
                  31.221.96.100

                  You're ok so everyone now who complains must be weak?

                    Re: Nice club, Chelsea

                    Posted by Bootin on 12/1/2018, 18:12:58, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
                    86.154.250.137

                    No just saying that we live in different times.

                    Re: Nice club, Chelsea

                    Posted by EastEnder on 12/1/2018, 15:06:40, in reply to "Re: Nice club, Chelsea"
                    213.205.251.166

                    I'm sure John Moore dished out a few rollickings and now some overpaid oversensitive kid could possibly make a claim of bullying.

              Re: Nice club, Chelsea

              Posted by HH on 12/1/2018, 13:45:49, in reply to "Nice club, Chelsea"
              77.99.162.49

              Paedo and racist. That's some combination for Rix

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