
Posted by PC on 11/9/2004, 4:59 pm, in reply to "Re: FEAR TRUMPS REASON" i also love how conservatives think they are more moralistic and hold higher values than everyone else. they're gonna teach..no, force us how to live a meaningful life. but where is the morality in joking about the failure to find WMD like bush did, searching under a desk in one political skit, while thousands are dead? sick. love those morals. --Previous Message--
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i don't even know where to start with this post. alright, a couple quick things: "socialist leanings".ha. i love it when conservatives use that term to describe anyone who merely wants a level economic playing field. is it fair that a person making over 200k is taxed at a lesser rate then a soldier fighting in iraq? the gap between rich and poor is growing once again, sir... like it does every time a conservative takes office..and we'll eventually need another democrat to come and save us like bill clinton did after reagan's trickle down economics and bush 1. can't deny the facts.
: sir:
: if you once talked to anyone outside of your
: limited circle of friends(know anybody in
: Iowa? know any active duty soldiers?), you
: might find that there is a majority of people
: in this country that DO believe in God, do
: NOT believe in abortion, and DO think Iraq is
: a wise move.
: NOT fear, sir...reason.
: I once counted myself as a Dem, more than
: that, a LIBERAL Dem. from big bad NYC.... You
: know what? Bill AND Hill woke me up... I want
: nothing to do with them, nor the socialist
: leanings of the current Dem party.
: Terry Mc is a creep. George Soros is a
: nightmare, so much so, that Mr. Cheney
: reminds me of someone I can trust. Wow...
: that is saying something, huh? Have you ever
: looked into Geo. Soros' background?
: Look to the party of screaming elitist
: maniacs who get their money from fatter cats
: than the Republicans as the reason Geo. II
: won. You actually believe Michael Moore? You
: really have to look at more than one view
: point, and get information from more than one
: source. (the NYT logo should read: "all
: the news that fits the agenda")
: That, and the fact that people do not want
: living, up to 9th month, unborn children to
: be pulled by their feet out of the mother,
: leaving the head in place in the womb or
: birth canal (so that it passes the test of
: the current laws as to not be considered
: murder....), then either scramble the brains
: with scissors and break up the skull into
: pieces, (or some other equally barbaric
: procedure) so that the dead remains may be
: pulled out easier. This for NO REASON except
: not wanting the child. Nothing to do with
: rape, disease. sir.... just the desire to be
: unfettered of that child. Happens every day.
: What about you? Would you vote against the
: ban of partial birth abortion 6 times like
: Mr. Kerry?
: I wouldn't. I am not religious, particularly,
: but I voted for Mr. Bush because every life
: is important.
: --Previous Message--
: Fear Trumps Reason
: by Rosa María Pegueros
: Last night, amidst the NPR chatter of the
: election, I heard a young woman explain why
: she had voted for Kerry. She said that she
: had voted for Bush last time but that he had
: broken his promise to be a uniter not a
: divider. At her childs daycare center, the
: parents are so polarized that the Republican
: moms sit on one side and the Democrat moms
: sit on the other. With a husky voice, she
: said, Somebody has to do something to unite
: us.
: This morning after, when the divisions are so
: deep, President George W. Bush has a choice
: to govern from the center or to see a 3.5
: million voteout of over 113,555,794 votes
: cast as a mandate (Im not counting the Nader
: votes). Given Bushs response to his
: court-appointed victory last time, when he
: acted as if the people had granted him a
: mandate, we may have a very dim future before
: us.
: For anyone left of center, it feels like
: were facing Armageddon: irreversible damage
: to the environment, the institution of the
: draft; the appointment of Scalia to replace
: Chief Justice William Rehnquist; a several
: new conservative justices to the Supreme
: Court, a skyrocketing unemployment rate, not
: to mention a solidly Republican House and
: Senate. Its not a list to read with your
: morning coffee.
: The Democratic Party, which put all of its
: heart and soul into getting new voters, must
: now reconnoiter and make a plan for the
: future. Considering the revitalization that
: it enjoyed from joining its forces with the
: Left, including many of whom had never voted
: for a Democratic candidate as well as many
: Democratic Socialists who had been alienated
: from the party for a generation, it must now
: find a way to address the concerns of the
: American people without selling its soul to
: the devil. Even though we didnt win, we came
: within three percentage points of winning.
: Moreover, we must keep in mind that we are a
: country at war, and that traditionally,
: Americans have closed ranks behind the
: president at such a time. That it was as
: close as it was means that we can build a
: future that draws strength from a base that
: is different from that of the Republicans.
: We cannot fault John Kerry for this loss. He
: is a thoughtful man of character who deeply
: loves this country and who pulled all the
: stops out to win. Moreover, he got more votes
: than any other Democratic candidate in
: history.
: It is, perhaps, precisely why he lost. People
: who think see the grays of life, weight the
: ethical concerns, read the newspapers, and
: change their minds based on new concerns.
: Real intellectuals have never done well with
: the American people because they want clarity
: and unequivocal conviction. Its hard to be
: absolutely resolute if one doesnt wear
: blinders. Besides, it is not in the nature of
: people who dont believe in absolutes to be
: absolutist. Not to be tautological, but if
: your faith requires a belief in absolute
: authority and absolute morality, then your
: entire world view flows from point: Easy for
: a religious fundamentalist to do; it is not
: easy or desirable for the rest of us.
: Despite the post-election gloom on the left,
: we must recognize a powerful force has been
: energized: All of the first-time voters and
: the young people who, until this election,
: were politically apathetic have been reached!
: Once the dust has settled, we must continue
: to build on that base.
: This generation of young people must bear the
: brunt of whatever comes now, whether it be
: the draft which seems to be inevitable, the
: financial burden of a ballooning deficit, or
: the struggle for survival in a degraded
: environment. We must teach them what we know
: and learn with them to us the new tools that
: we cant even imagine. After all, four years
: ago, the Internet had not been used for
: political campaigns; without it, we would not
: have gotten as far as we did this time.
: Bush could surprise us all by recognizing the
: depth of the breach between the two sides of
: America and acting to bring us together.
: After all, he will never have to run for
: anything again. He has the opportunity for
: graciousness: He could appoint moderate
: rather than extreme conservatives to the
: Supreme Court and find other ways to
: demonstrate that he is, indeed, a president
: for All the people.
: Whatever Bush does, we must not drop the ball
: now for it would mean losing ground.
: Reproductive choice is at issue; gay and
: lesbian rights are at issue; fair and clean
: elections are at issue, to name a few. If we
: believe that America is better than the sum
: of its people, that it aspires to greatness
: rather than merely sanctimony and brute
: strength, we do not have the luxury to
: retreat to nurse our wounds. We must seize
: the day.
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