When you said that indigenous people were better off for having been colonized, I took great offense to that. And don't apologize to Karsten or anyone else for that. Those were your words.
And I think any other indigenous people would have taken as much or more offense.
I'm going to work to get a bunch of us native people together to meet your standards and become a tribe of indigenous people you can approve of. I'm very sorry that we didn't meet you approval at first glance. We'll work to fix that in the future.
: Well, that topic pain me personally more, than
: you can probably imagine.
: I was into indians when I was a child and
: youth then. I admired them. I loved them. I
: had a dream - just to be one of them. I
: hated to be white. Later I left my
: "house of white naive dreams" when
: I become adult, because I met real indians.
: I studied real history of (NA) indians and -
: I am very, very sorry, but - I totally lost
: all interest in them. I was extremely
: disappoited by them. Their loincloths are
: good, but the rest.... it is really not for
: me. Today I am proud to be native white.
: Sorry again, that discussion can turn into
: nasty thing, so for me I will not continue
: in it. Sorry Karsten, sorry all, its just
: mine very private opinion I am just daring
: to share with you.
: If there is any person who hates whites
: there, then its OK, I really do not care.
: We whites are not perfect too, anyway.
: --Previous Message--
: I'm sorry, Atreju, but your comment really
: rubbed me the wrong way. As an indigenous
: person it's pretty obvious that you approach
: that question as a western person. Who are
: you to say that native Hawaiians live better
: than when the white man arrived?
: Sure, you can use metrics and studies to
: make the case, but indigenous people all
: over the world were never able to make that
: choice for themselves as colonialism was
: imposed upon them.
: Make that same comment to any indigenous
: person (if you know any) and see how they
: react. It's offensive and it's time someone
: said something about it.
: --Previous Message--
: Hawaiian natives are living today much, much
: better than ever before. Loincloths are nice
: on these pictures, but any point of that
: possible protest sounds really stupid to me.
: Thank you for a sharing of these pictures,
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