barrel intechange

Posted by JLH on April 13, 2012, 9:12 am
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I am curious about how interchangeable barrels and recievers are with respect to similar grades, year of manufacture and receiver size R or FWT? thanks, Lance

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Posted by JLH on April 13, 2012, 9:15 am, in reply to "barrel intechange"
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I meant "interchange". Dang the tiny keyboard.

Re: barrel intechange

Posted by David Williamson on April 13, 2012, 10:06 am, in reply to "barrel intechange"
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Lance, all barrel actions were set using jigs, so they are all very close in regard to frame style. You cannot fit a Regular frame to a FW frame and vice versa. As far as year of manufacture, or grades, again there were jigs used. I have bought some barrels on Internet gun auctions and on one, a Grade 1 circa 1899, Damascus, it fit right on the gun I wanted it for, an F Grade hammer gun made in 1908. I also have another set of 26" barrels (original length) circa 1900 that also fit this gun perfect. Sometimes it just takes a slight bit of filing on the barrel lug where it meets the hinge pin. When I do this I candle the hinge and lug and look at the fit. Now, the hardest part is fitting the for-end. I worked on one for a few hours to get it to fit both barrels, but you cannot take much off the for-end metal, you have to work on the barrel loop for the fit. The best thing to hope for when buying other barrels, is that they do not fit, or fit perfect with no play. If they do fit and have play, it could be a lot of work to get them right.

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Posted by Will Favre on April 13, 2012, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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Hi Lance, I have a Ideal 1924 32" 16ga. FWE and bought an orphaned set of 26" barrels w/ ejector for-end made for a 1921 Field Grade. The orphaned barrels were made in the late 1930s and marked #2. They fit without any modifications. The only problem is the ejectors are not timed correctly and the left barrel has premature ejection and the hull will not clear the receiver, so I am now learning how ejectors work!!!! If you decide to buy a set make sure you have a 3 day inspection and can return them less fright if they are too loose.

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Posted by David Williamson on April 13, 2012, 2:20 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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Will, it sounds as if the cocking rod/s are engaging the cocking plate/s early, causing this to happen.

Re: barrel interchange

Posted by Will Favre on April 14, 2012, 9:39 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel interchange"

Thanks David, Are the leaves (N)the same thing as the cocking plates? Will

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Posted by JLH on April 15, 2012, 12:10 am, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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David- Thanks for the info. I occaisionally hear about folks picking up an extra set of barrels and now I know what to look for. Lance

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Posted by Steve Arnett on April 16, 2012, 12:47 pm, in reply to "barrel intechange"
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While we have a policy that prohibits selling guns on our site, I think it would be a useful service to have a BARREL EXCHANGE page. I have been looking for more than a year for a set of pre-1913 barrels for my F grade hammer gun. I imagine that there are others similarly situated, as well as member that have barrels that are "orphaned" that they might like to sell. Something to discuss at the Annual Meeting 11 days hence?

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Posted by Will Favre on April 16, 2012, 1:26 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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This may help reunite a lost barrel and/or fore end to the parent gun. I have a #2 set of barrels #35695 (not for sale except to reunite them to the parent gun). Where is 35695? Will

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Posted by jimmyd on April 16, 2012, 4:16 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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What grade & gauge is that gun ?

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Posted by David Williamson on April 16, 2012, 4:31 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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Steve, a set of pre-13 barrels is not much information as there were two types of barrels used then. One would have the joint check and ejector, and the other would not. The joint check ended around serial number 786xx in 1899. Members can post barrels for sale and I believe it that if someone saw them on a site it wouldn't be against policy for them to post it here. That would be just barrels or parts.

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Posted by Will Favre on April 16, 2012, 5:26 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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1921 16ga Field Grade 26" barrels SN# 35695 #2

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Posted by Steve Arnett on April 17, 2012, 8:32 am, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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The gun in question is a 1906 12 ga. F grade hammer gun. Not a joint check model, but one of the last versions of the hammer models. I suspect, but do not know, if Hammerless barrels will fit on this frame. In an ideal world, the "Barrel Exhange" page would have a form to complete, including spaces for all pertinent data. The concept could also be expanded to include all manner of parts. This could free up the Forum for sharing all the other information folks are interested in.

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Posted by David Williamson on April 17, 2012, 12:36 pm, in reply to "Re: barrel intechange"
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Steve, other barrels from a hammerless gun could be made to fit on a hammer gun. As I stated in the first of these posts, I bought a Grade 1 set of barrels that fit right on my hammer gun, no work to them, the for-end was another story.