Posted by David Austin on October 25, 2009, 10:42 pm
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simple question...are all 12ga fireing pins the same size...syracuse, pre 1913 hunter arms ,post 1913...????

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Posted by David Austin on October 25, 2009, 10:44 pm, in reply to "fireing pin size"
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forgot to add ...hammerless

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Posted by Drew Hause on October 26, 2009, 8:40 am, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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Early tool steel pin Pre-1913 'coned' pin variant Post-1913 pins were thicker and made of vanadium steel

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Posted by David Austin on October 26, 2009, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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So pre-13 guns can have either a strait pin with a collar or a cone shaped pin??....how do you know what you have without taking out the bushing???

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Posted by Drew Hause on October 26, 2009, 7:47 pm, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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I don't believe you can David

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Posted by Jim A. on October 27, 2009, 12:19 pm, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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David, I don't believe the cone shaped pins have a bushing. They can be removed by removing the lockplates, they just fit into a hole drilled from the rear of the receiver Jim A.

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Posted by David Austin on October 27, 2009, 4:47 pm, in reply to "fireing pin size"
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Would this pin work...?? Gunbroker...144286483...Seller says they THINK it will fit a pre 1913.... Id just like to have an extra or 2 just in case....

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Posted by David W on October 31, 2009, 8:24 am, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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If you have a bushing, you have the type of firing pin illustrated in the drawing, and the only way to see it is to take the busing out, carefully.

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Posted by mark on November 5, 2009, 11:46 am, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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David is right. The long cylindrical pins are for "pre-1913" Standard frames, all of which have bushings to access them from the breech face. This I know. I don't know if "1913 and later" Standard frames have bushings and therefore use those same pins. I suspect that they do not. Do you need pins? I know where you can get the old style pins.

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Posted by mark on November 5, 2009, 11:53 am, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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David, I do not think this will fit a pre-1913, if that's what you're asking. The pin up for auction appears to be identical to the pins in my post- 1913 Featherweight, and may also fit the post 1913 Standard frame (I don't have one of those and can't tell you for certain).

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Posted by Pastorcharlie on November 5, 2009, 3:43 pm, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
72.85.17.230

I am looking for prints for the Hammer Gun firing pins.I have run across two types so far.I had copy for many years above my lathe but somehow it got away.A while back some nice person posted some information on our forum I thought about the pins but I have not been able to find it.I would appreciate anything that anyone may post.Thanks;Charlie.

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Posted by David W on November 6, 2009, 6:43 am, in reply to "Re: fireing pin size"
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Charlie, here is a drawing from "Plans and Specifications". This will work on guns circa 1898-end of production. Not sure of pre 1898 and I have not seen one. Hope it helps. This is measurements from one I have, close to original.

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Posted by Pastorcharlie on November 6, 2009, 8:45 am, in reply to "Hammer gun firing pin"
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Thanks David,that is the print that I once had.One of the problems with making a replacement pin is that they need to be custom fitted to the now well worn bore holes in the guns.Several pins were broken on Sat. at the shoot.I have the equipment to make these pins if someone has trouble finding new ones.Thank you for all the valuable information that you provide to our organization.Charlie.

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