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    Day before Christmas Eve shoot 1896 Archived Message

    Posted by H. McMurchy on December 17, 2015, 12:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Christmas Day Shoot 1889"

    The idea of the Cast Iron Medal originated with Doc Carver, and the first shoot was an open competition held at Watson's Park, Chicago Nov. 16, 1894 and won by George Kleinman with a score of 91 defeating John Brewer, J.A.R. Elliott, Doc Carver, C.M. Grimm, C.W. Budd, and others.

    http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1898/VOL_30_NO_25/SL3025019.pdf
    Doc Carver later challenged the winner and took the medal and forfeit of $25.00 by default since Kleinman was ill and confined to his bed.

    Charles Grimm immediately challenged Carver and defeated him Dec. 23, 1896 98 to 96.
    http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1897/VOL_28_NO_15/SL2815017.pdf
    Charles Grimm defeats Doc Carver in Chicago for the “Cast Iron Medal”
    Grimm used a 12-bore L.C. Smith gun, 7 3/4 pounds, 3 3/4 drams Schultze, l 1/4 ounce No. 7 shot, in U.M.C. Trap shell.
    Carver used a 12-bore Cashmore gun, 8 pounds weight, 4 drams of Carver powder, 1 1/4 No. 7 shot, in U.M.C. Trap shells.

    Letter from Carver re: J. “147” L. Winston, “The Wizard of the West”, St. Louis representing Austin Powder Co. Jan. 30 1897
    http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1897/VOL_28_NO_19/SL2819018.pdf
    Dr. W. F. Carver wrote a funny letter in a Chicago journal last week, in which he states that Winston could not kill good birds because he had a cheap American
    machine made gun, and if “147” had used the same kind of imported gun that he did the matches would have been closer. Will Dr. W. F. Carver kindly explain why Charles Grimm, using the same kind of machine made gun (L. C. Smith) as Winston did, managed to kill 98 out of 100 live birds and take the “Cast Iron Medal” away from him? In this match Grimm used the American machine made L.C. Smith gun, while Carver used an imported gun that he advertises free when he gets a chance.
    Now if Carver’s gun is so much better than Grimm’s why did he not kill more birds? or was it because the cashless (Carver used a Cashmore) gun was only good on hard, fast zig-zig screamers, and not adapted for soft easy duffer birds? The “Evil Spirit” had better think again.


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