Dan: You may want to check out Dr. Drew's Picture Trail on this web sight for an example of a near new 410 bore to see what one is supposed to look like. Also check the auction sights on the web for current asking prices, such as gunbroker.com , gunsamerica.com , auctionarms.com . The prices are well above Davids $3000 but they are just the asking price. Many have been listed for quite some time without any serious takers. Please consider joining the LCSCA and good luck with you 410 bore.