
Posted by DavidO
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on 11/2/2009, 4:25 pm, in reply to "Re: appearance sketch of Peruvian monitor Victoria"
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Roger is correct as to both Loa and Victoria. Loa was a conversion, while Victoria was a home built ship. I have the photo of the painting in the museum: it is the one that is post card sized. (From a book in Spanish on the 100th anniversary of the Battle.) Painted several years after the battle, it depicts the entire battle scene, the ships being a fairly small part. I understand the original takes up most of a wall. The image seems to be much more like the US monitors that were bought in 1866 and 1867. Even with a magnifying glass, it is hard to tell from the photo of the painting available to me. Does anyone know if one of the purchased US monitors may have been substituted for the painting, or if it depicts Victoria as she looked?
Sources say she had a turret a little forward of midships; nothing else on appearance. Was it a real, rotating turret, or a fixed one like the HMS Hotspur? Some of the english language sources question the "turret", while the spanish language sources say it was definitely a turret. Where was the smokestack? Any masts? Any additional info would be helpful.
--Previous Message--
: Victoria was a locally-built monitor with a
: single 64pounder gun and powered (not the
: right word!) by a railway locomotive engine.
: The National Maritime Museum say there is a
: painting but show no image on their website.
: The Loa was a cut-down frigate (like CSS
: Virginia) and quite different from Victoria.
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: --Previous Message--
: You proabably know that the two monitors
: purchased from the US after the US Civil War
: (I thought they were Passaic class, but
: could have been other),named Atahualpa and
: Manco Capac in Peruvian service, didn't
: arrive in time for action against Spain. I
: think it would have had to be a locally
: built casemate ironclad like the later Loa.
: Let us know what you discover.
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: --Previous Message--
: I am looking for information on this ship
: from
: the War of the Pacific between Spain and the
: South American allies. I have good info on
: dimensions and armament (some
: discrepancies), but no plan or appearance
: sketch. I have found two paintings of the
: Battle at Callao, (her only action) which
: purport to depict her, but both are rather
: fanciful, and were painted long after the
: battle. From what can be seen in the post
: card sized photo of one and the on-line
: pixelated photo of the other, the appearance
: of the ship which should be Victoria looks
: to be a Canonicus class monitor that was
: acquired after the the battle. Warship
: International from the early 1970s has some
: sketches of the Spanish and later Allied
: ironclads but not Victoria.
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: Does anyone know of an authentic plan or
: appearance sketch? All help is appreciated.
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