Posted by Gavin on October 27, 2005, 11:44 am, in reply to "Re: The article on parking" --Previous Message--
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I. Wooden what a very good response to a dick who is most likley to be a fat ugly traffic warden.. we should stone all wardens on sight....
: You ever been to London you moron? Who
: can justify 4 wardens to one street
: unless they are working as a revenue
: earning policy of a nice private
: firm under a council. I hope you get
: a nice set of traffic lights,
: parking permits and speed camera put
: outside your semi tonight. Next
: thing you will be telling us how we
: should relax our immigration and let
: in every good for nothing to- sap
: our country dry with benefits fraud.
: Huh
:
: You really are right on.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I've just read the article on
: parking
: on this web site, and I've got to
: say, its largely nonsense. First of
: all, the author continually refers
: to "offences" but parking
: offences were largely decriminalised
: in the 1991 Road Traffic Act. All of
: the occasions described in the
: article are contraventions of the
: parking regulations rather than
: illegal offences that break the law.
: Whether or not a local authority
: runs its own parking services, it is
: a requirement that the authority
: adheres to a fully auditted
: procedure. This procedure covers the
: entire issuing and appealing of
: penalty charge notices. As such, the
: Traffic Warden (who is directly
: employeed by the local authority) or
: the Parking Attendant (who usually
: is employeed by a contractor on
: behalf of the local authority) has
: no lee way. If they observe a
: vehicle in contravention they must
: issue a penalty charge notice.
: Issueing such a notice requires
: considerable expertise as the Warden
: or Attendant must record details
: meticulously. The Warden or
: Attendant's pocket book is a legal
: record, comparable with a police
: note book. There has been occasions
: where crimes have been observed
: taken plac eand recorded and the
: pocket book has been used as
: evidence in a court of law.
:
: The 50% discount offered by some
: authorities is an incentive for
: swift payment. The author has turned
: it into an increase of the penalty
: by suggesting that the payment
: increases after 14 days, but that is
: incorrect. As I understand it, in
: most authorities the motorist has
: the right to appeal during the
: discount period, and the general
: policy of most authorities is to
: putthat discount on hold while the
: appeal is being processed. That
: means you still get the opportunity
: to pay at the discounted rate even
: if the ticket is upheld. That isn't
: them hiking it up by %50, thats them
: knocking %50 off your ticket!
:
: There are many stages of the appeals
: process, and if you are not
: satisifed with your local
: authority's decision, you can appeal
: to the National Parking Adjudicator.
: That is an independant body made up
: of barristers and other legal
: experts.
:
: All of the cases the author presents
: reflect a motorist who is not
: observing the signage correctly. It
: is the motorists responsibilty to
: ensure they check all the signage
: when they park. From what he
: describes in the cases, it sounds
: like all the tickets were issued
: correctly. The appeals procedure is
: there to see whether or not
: discretion can be excercised, but if
: when the author came face to face
: with staff that were trying to help
: him, all he could do was be abusive,
: I am not suprised he is so confused
: about the whole situation.
:
: I also find it hard to follow the
: argument about how he might get
: caught, but it is not fair, as
: others are getting away with it.
: There are lots of people who ignore
: building regulations. Should we let
: them off because there is a guy at
: no. 45 with a dodgy extenstion who
: hasnt been pulled up? There are
: plenty of people around that bugger
: sheep. The police dont catch all of
: them. Should we let the ones they do
: off because they never got all the
: rest of them?
:
: Some people hate Warden's and
: Parking Attendants, but I think they
: really are one of the backbones of
: our society. You do not get a police
: presence on the streets nowadays. I
: like to see uniformed folk on the
: streets, it gives a sense of order.
: And they really do an essential job.
: People who think they can just nip
: in here and there and think they are
: not causing much harm, and then get
: angry when they are issued with a
: ticket are forgetting one key thing.
: If the Wardens and Attendants were
: not there, then everyone wouldbe
: doing it, all the time, and then
: motorists would be a darn sight more
: fed up than they are now. There is a
: practical example. When a foul up
: led to St. Albans hanving a period
: without a contracted Parking
: Services Operator, mayhem broke out
: almost overnight. People couldnt
: walk sdown the pavement for cars
: being parked all over them, there
: were cars left in the middle of busy
: roads, it was madness. The people of
: St Albans were soon begging for
: their Parking Attendants back.
:
: So remember, the next time you sneer
: at a Traffic Warden or Parking
: Attendant, they might be the guy
: wandering down the street who puts a
: villain off robbing your home. They
: might be the guy who chases off
: someone who was about to key your
: car. They might even be the guy who
: stopped the traffic so your kids
: could cross the road safely. They
: are a pair of eyes and ears that our
: society needs and I've got to say I
: think they are great. They get so
: much grief and it is not fair. And
: without them, the traffic system
: would collapse completely. Without
: question.
:
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