Posted by l.wooden on October 6, 2005, 9:27 pm, in reply to "Re: The article on parking" --Previous Message--
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they are not honest or trust worthy as i have learnt almost to my cost. i have watched as they hide taking car details ihave been personally discriminated against. and falsely accussed of illegal parking something that took many months for me to prove.i have known of tickets being cancelled by wardens,and there associates. it is disqusting that these people can persicute people in this way. private companies should not be allowed to abuse the law as they do. they are police matters and should be dealt with by the police.
: You ever been to London you moron? Who
: can justify 4 wardens to one street
: unless they are working as a revenue
: earning policy of a nice private
: firm under a council. I hope you get
: a nice set of traffic lights,
: parking permits and speed camera put
: outside your semi tonight. Next
: thing you will be telling us how we
: should relax our immigration and let
: in every good for nothing to- sap
: our country dry with benefits fraud.
: Huh
:
: You really are right on.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I've just read the article on
: parking
: on this web site, and I've got to
: say, its largely nonsense. First of
: all, the author continually refers
: to "offences" but parking
: offences were largely decriminalised
: in the 1991 Road Traffic Act. All of
: the occasions described in the
: article are contraventions of the
: parking regulations rather than
: illegal offences that break the law.
: Whether or not a local authority
: runs its own parking services, it is
: a requirement that the authority
: adheres to a fully auditted
: procedure. This procedure covers the
: entire issuing and appealing of
: penalty charge notices. As such, the
: Traffic Warden (who is directly
: employeed by the local authority) or
: the Parking Attendant (who usually
: is employeed by a contractor on
: behalf of the local authority) has
: no lee way. If they observe a
: vehicle in contravention they must
: issue a penalty charge notice.
: Issueing such a notice requires
: considerable expertise as the Warden
: or Attendant must record details
: meticulously. The Warden or
: Attendant's pocket book is a legal
: record, comparable with a police
: note book. There has been occasions
: where crimes have been observed
: taken plac eand recorded and the
: pocket book has been used as
: evidence in a court of law.
:
: The 50% discount offered by some
: authorities is an incentive for
: swift payment. The author has turned
: it into an increase of the penalty
: by suggesting that the payment
: increases after 14 days, but that is
: incorrect. As I understand it, in
: most authorities the motorist has
: the right to appeal during the
: discount period, and the general
: policy of most authorities is to
: putthat discount on hold while the
: appeal is being processed. That
: means you still get the opportunity
: to pay at the discounted rate even
: if the ticket is upheld. That isn't
: them hiking it up by %50, thats them
: knocking %50 off your ticket!
:
: There are many stages of the appeals
: process, and if you are not
: satisifed with your local
: authority's decision, you can appeal
: to the National Parking Adjudicator.
: That is an independant body made up
: of barristers and other legal
: experts.
:
: All of the cases the author presents
: reflect a motorist who is not
: observing the signage correctly. It
: is the motorists responsibilty to
: ensure they check all the signage
: when they park. From what he
: describes in the cases, it sounds
: like all the tickets were issued
: correctly. The appeals procedure is
: there to see whether or not
: discretion can be excercised, but if
: when the author came face to face
: with staff that were trying to help
: him, all he could do was be abusive,
: I am not suprised he is so confused
: about the whole situation.
:
: I also find it hard to follow the
: argument about how he might get
: caught, but it is not fair, as
: others are getting away with it.
: There are lots of people who ignore
: building regulations. Should we let
: them off because there is a guy at
: no. 45 with a dodgy extenstion who
: hasnt been pulled up? There are
: plenty of people around that bugger
: sheep. The police dont catch all of
: them. Should we let the ones they do
: off because they never got all the
: rest of them?
:
: Some people hate Warden's and
: Parking Attendants, but I think they
: really are one of the backbones of
: our society. You do not get a police
: presence on the streets nowadays. I
: like to see uniformed folk on the
: streets, it gives a sense of order.
: And they really do an essential job.
: People who think they can just nip
: in here and there and think they are
: not causing much harm, and then get
: angry when they are issued with a
: ticket are forgetting one key thing.
: If the Wardens and Attendants were
: not there, then everyone wouldbe
: doing it, all the time, and then
: motorists would be a darn sight more
: fed up than they are now. There is a
: practical example. When a foul up
: led to St. Albans hanving a period
: without a contracted Parking
: Services Operator, mayhem broke out
: almost overnight. People couldnt
: walk sdown the pavement for cars
: being parked all over them, there
: were cars left in the middle of busy
: roads, it was madness. The people of
: St Albans were soon begging for
: their Parking Attendants back.
:
: So remember, the next time you sneer
: at a Traffic Warden or Parking
: Attendant, they might be the guy
: wandering down the street who puts a
: villain off robbing your home. They
: might be the guy who chases off
: someone who was about to key your
: car. They might even be the guy who
: stopped the traffic so your kids
: could cross the road safely. They
: are a pair of eyes and ears that our
: society needs and I've got to say I
: think they are great. They get so
: much grief and it is not fair. And
: without them, the traffic system
: would collapse completely. Without
: question.
:
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