Posted by Vengerin
on 6/12/2012, 10:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Requiem script detail"
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: And sure, like Kryschenn said up there, maybe Venger could
: wanted that redemption but... having the key to his hand, why
: don't use it himself. I mean, the result could be the same with
: Mr. Spooky One anyway, using the key himself or other, why don't
: make the move himself?
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: Pure guessing on my part here, but I explained that to myself by
: saying that somehow, as part of the "curse" that was
: on Venger, he himself was prevented from putting the key in the
: lock and turning it. He had to get someone else to do it,
: vaguely like Beauty and the Beast : The prince could never
: break the curse of the beast by himself, he had to convince
: someone else to fall in love with him. Venger had to convince
: someone else to turn the key, and the only way he knew how to do
: it was by deceit.
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: Shaky, I know, but that's the only explanation I have.
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: Kryschenn
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See? That's the motherfreaking problem with that script. It's so awful that the only possible explanation for Venger's behavior is some cheesy, cheesy reason.
Yeah, I know... curses has to come with solutions, we learned that in the current of literature history and with Terry Pratchett's Sourcery but was so easy as 'Shadow Demon! Take this, use in there!'. Yeah, I know you're saying that maybe Venger, as an evil entity, could not want to be redeemed but his inner self yes, so indirectly he uses the guys to break the curse and yadda, yadda... But that's subtext into subtext into subtext and that's another mark of a very bad episode because you need all that to explain that behavior in the same you should need the mother of all explanations to explain Sheila's.
Also, taking Beauty and the Beast example... Beast didn't need to trick Belle to fall in love, he had to learn about loving someone, loving her, not only her loving him. What's Venger big lesson in 'Requiem', what he learned there? Tantrums shouldn't last two thousand years? Don't take candy from strangers in huge tornados? Father knows best? Doesn't matter how powerful your player character is, the DM still can screw you up big time? Sorry, but the guys learned about compassion and forgiveness in Dragons' Graveyard... I think even Venger learned about that in there. That episode is cool and the violence (for the time, those guys didn't know about Dragon Ball back in that day to call that violent 
) wasn't gratuitous. In 'Requiem' I don't see the moral story at all, that's just bad, really, really bad >_<
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