Re: Why hasn't anyone bothered to try a revival ?
Posted by dayofthedm on 7/20/2011, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Why hasn't anyone bothered to try a revival ?"
..But Marvel does Not own the rights |
...Disney does (sob)
: --Previous Message--
: One thing I liked that was different, most of the 80s villains,
: skeletor, mumm ra, cobra commander, had a comedic side to them,
: bursting fits of evil laughter. Venger on the other hand, was
: cold, vicious, and no sense of humour whatsoever(unless you
: count the talisman trick in Tardos) No gloating, no evil laugh
: of triumph,
: Personally, I always thought he should get laid once ina while,
: loosen him up a bit.
: I still think that Venger should hook up with Maleficent from
: "Sleeping Beauty." Or possibly the Other Mother from
: "Coraline." And if Bellatrix Lestrange ever gets
: tired of hanging out with Voldie . . . .
: Regarding a revival, I think there is one going on already. The
: Series has been released on DVD. On Fan Fiction.Net alone,
: there are over 150 stories dedicated to the "Dungeons and
: Dragons" Cartoon, and at least five fan-designed websites
: with loads of information (as well as fan fiction and art,)
: Regarding an official revival, I think the best we can hope for,
: now that Marvel has the rights, is a comic / graphic novel
: series. This seems unlikely, at the moment. But one can always
: hope . . . .
: --Previous Message--
: "Dungeons & Dragons actually failed to appeal even to
: its target audience, most of whom regarded it as too much of a
: kiddie show and not really representative of the game"
: Agreed. Which is why it is the best of the lot.
: "(though why they should have been better judges of that
: than Gary Gygax escapes my comprehension)."
: I'm not sure what the exact details were, but I recall that TSR
: sacked Gary Gygax because he refused to bow to popular opinion.
: That pretty much says volumes about the kind of judge he was.
: "I suspect more than one of them were outraged by the fact
: that it seemed to reproduce in a fantastic world the very high
: school hierarchy that they played D&D to escape: the jocks Hank
: and Diana in the leadership rôles, the rich preppy Eric fairly
: high, and the nerd Presto only barely inching out the jock’s
: girlfriend’s little brother in social status."
: You're probably right, sadly. No offense intended, but my take
: on the subject is that the crowd at the gaming table tends to be
: brutally opinionated. A show like that did not live up to
: expectations. A lot of the 80's He-Man era loved their
: "hack and slash". Something with an in-depth story
: wasn't what the crowd wanted. On the other side of the fence,
: you had the kind of players the series was meant for: who loved
: a good story, and whose goal was cooperation rather than
: "To be brutally honest, Dungeons & Dragons, by modern
: standards of animation and animation writing, is not that good a
: I can understand why you feel that way. I'll never agree, at
: least not entirely. I think for it's time, it was very daring.
: In an era of animation dominated by over-muscled He-Man, G.I.
: Joe, or the Transformers, it was something different. Comparing
: it to the following decades is unfair, because the censors and
: cable have vastly different viewing standards than network
: television of the time.
: I wish that Gygax had been able to get them to go with the
: series for another year. The rumors of the plans they had were
: interesting. They had planned to make the kids less dependent
: on their Weapons, which would have led to better stories I
: "Its character design is derivative (Karena, for instance,
: looks like a million other animated girls) and the animation is
: frequently sloppy (should one mention Hank’s patented
: disappearing tights?). "
: In an era before cellphones and teleconference, I think that was
: a byproduct of hand-painted cells and foreign labor. With part
: of the production team overseas and part in the U.S., it was
: hard to keep production values constant, and they went with
: predetermined designs.
: The writing is really good only by comparison with what had
: been going on in the decade or so before it. Sure, there were
: strong episodes like “Child of the Stargazer”; there were also
: very weak ones like “The Lost Children.”
: That can be said of any era of television.
: "Besides that, Dungeons & Dragons is very much tied to
: its own time."
: I can't disagree more. The Dungeons and Dragons property is,
: but I think the series itself has a more timeless quality.
: Sure, the animation places it in the 80's but the stories told
: have obviously withstood the last 25 years well, or we wouldn't
: be here. It was in continuous syndication in some countries for
: "Nowadays fantasy has splintered into a number of
: different forms, but most tend to be either set in our own
: “primary” world or satirical in nature."
: Sorry, Tann. I can't agree with that either. I'll agree that the
: fantasy genre is a lot more extensive, but what it sounds like
: you are talking about is so many readers today equate writers
: like Rowling and Riodan with fantasy as a whole - which to me,
: is definitely a misnomer. I find Harry somewhat enjoyable, but
: written for young readers, and rather lacking. (Try Kristin
: Britain if you prefer something more in the classic high fantasy
: vein, but recent. Her most recent novel is Blackviel ,
: published just 2-3 weeks ago.)
: "Even the game that inspired the series is now defunct,
: or, at least, so altered that it bears little resemblance to the
: Advanced Dungeons & Dragons game that the series was meant
: to emulate."
: Since the game has little to nothing to do with the series, I'm
: "Besides, heh, it’s hard enough to get people to produce
: fanfics and fanart — I really can’t see anyone devoting the
: Titanic effort that would be required to make even a five minute
: cartoon. Better just to be content with the DVDs."
: Nothing ventured, nothing gained. You are right, though that
: free time and expertise is not easy to get. Still, it would be
: fun to join such an effort.
"It is not the speed with which something is learned, but that it is learned at all, that counts"
-DungeonMaster (Dnd:tAS episode 27: The Winds of Darkness)
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