Posted by GeeDee on 14/4/2018, 14:52:05, in reply to "Re: Zeitgeist leugen"
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Hi Egbert,
Het is wel frappant dat er meer religies zijn met een Godheid die hetzelfde lot heeft ondergaan.
Het is maar waar men geloof in stelt.
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: Hoi GD,
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: Er zullen best een paar figuren op 25
: december geboren zijn, echter, Jezus is
: uniek, en heeft zijn eigen typologie in het
: OT, unieke typologie.
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: Een andere claim zou zijn dat pasen, eastern
: van Astoreth, godin van de lente is
: betrokken. Dit zou net zo goed door mysticus
: Johannes Grimm bedacht kunnen zijn. (Ja, de
: auteur van sneeuwwitje)
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: Nee, de film heb ik neti gezien.
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: Maar er zijn meer, (al dan niet
: Mythologische) personenedie op 25 december
: geboren zijn.
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: Ver voor de geboorte van ene jezus van
: nazareth zelfs. Of dat een leugen is??
: Mensen geloofden er toen stellig in.
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: https://kunst-en-cultuur.infonu.nl/mythologie/28693-jezus-christus-de-zonnegod.html
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: WIe de film 'zeitgeist' heeft gezien, en de
: genoemde gegevens als feit aanneemt, kan
: eenvoudig opzoeken of de feiten waar zijn of
: onwaar.
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: Hier weer zo één. Was Krishna een
: 'proto-Jezus'?
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: Hier de weerleggingen
:
: Was Krishna a Proto-Jesus? Je kan je ook
: vragen, waarom de 'zeitgeist'? Het zegt:
: "Alle religie is hetzelfde, Jezus is
: NIET god, hij is niet uniek, alles is
: dezelfde fantasie'. Men probeert de waarheid
: onder te sneeuwen, dat God zelf op aarde
: aanwezig was.
: Voor wie dit niet kunnen lezen, gebruik
: translate.google.com
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: Common False Claims:
: (1) Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki /
: Devaka /Yasoda
: (2) on December 25th and was
: (3) crucified
: (4) between two thieves
: (5) for our sins,
: (6) rose from the dead and ascended into
: heaven, and
: (7) and he was born/died c. 1200 BC.
:
: The Real Story:
:
: Classical Indian Sources for the Stories of
: Krishna’s Life: Mahabharata (= M, c. 300 BC-
: c. 300 AD), Harivamsha (c. 450 AD), Vishnu
: Purana (= VP c. 400-500 AD), Bhagavata
: Purana (= BP, c. 950 AD).1 The most
: influential telling is the last mentioned,
: the BP.
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: (1) Krishna was the 8th son of Vasudeva and
: Devaki. The name of their first son was
: Kirtiman. The BP credits the pregnancy to
: “mental transmission” through the mind of
: Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki. That
: detail is from a late source (c. 950 AD),
: does not really represent a virgin birth,
: since Devaki was not a virgin, and is not
: present in the earlier accounts of Krishna’s
: birth in the H (c. 450 AD) and VP (c.
: 400-500 AD). The names Devaka (used by
: Christopher Hitchens and the source he
: plagiarized) and Yasoda (used by Kersey
: Graves) are errors deriving from a basic
: ignorance of the story.
:
: (2) The celebration of Krishna’s birthday is
: one of the most prominent festivals in
: India, which takes place in the late summer
: or early fall (Bhadra in the North of India,
: Shravana in the South). The idea that that
: his birthday was celebrated on December 25
: derives from no other source than ignorant
: and/or dishonest English-speaking
: “Freethinkers” who falsely claimed that
: Shravana “answers to our December.”
:
: (3) Krishna was not crucified. He died when
: the hunter Jara shot him in the sole of his
: foot. In most stories it was said to be an
: accident; in one story, Jara was actually a
: demon getting revenge for being killed by
: Krishna in a previous life. The reason
: Krishna died the way he did was that with
: the exception of the soles of his feet his
: body was invincible due to a boon granted
: him by the sage Durvāsas.
:
: (4) Crucified between two thieves? Nothing
: like that at all in the authentic Hindu
: sources.
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: (5) Krishna died not for our sins but in
: fulfillment of two curses made against him
: and his clan: (i) the curse of the widow
: Gandhari, for not stopping the battle in
: which her husband Dhritarashtra died, and
: (ii) the curse of the Brahmanas, for a stunt
: Krishna’s son, Samba, played on some holy
: men.
:
: (6) Krishna’s spirit does ascend, but his
: body remains on earth and is cremated.
:
: (7) The date 1200 BC as the time of
: Krishna’s birth/death is not correct.
: Traditionally Krishna’s death took place
: just around 3100 BC, marking the beginning
: of the Age of Kali.
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