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Posted by John on 3/8/2006, 11:52 am, in reply to "Re: Twings and pole storage" Everything you laid out makes sense, and twings seem a real advantage now that I understand the benefits even if we never get racing. I can see in photos where the twings are cleated - I'm assuming the helm just reaches up to that point (inboard of the shroud) to uncleat the sheet if the crew has forgotten. For the single-ended pole, then, I'll use the shock cord track on the boom, and it sounds like I don't need to install hoops on the boom to hold the pole in that case. Thanks for all the information as usual! --Previous Message--
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Dave to the rescue once again....
: Sorry I forgot to answer one of your
: questions, Yes the crew has to
: manually stow the pole through those
: hoops on the boom with the double
: ended pole set up. Aagin many don't
: view this as a problem because so
: many people us ethis system. But
: for a short period of time the crew
: has to take his eyes off the
: spinnaker and face aft to stow the
: pole and as a skipper you hope the
: crew hits those loops on the first
: try and allow the crew to then turn
: and get the spinnaker in the boat.
: With many boats at a mark this can
: be a source of stress for all
: involved. Ned Goss taught my
: students how to use the single ended
: pole set up and to be honest most of
: them like it better because of the
: take downs and the hoists so what it
: comes down to is what you as a team
: are more comfortable with.
: If you have a steady crew then the
: double ended pole system might be
: the way to go for speed during the
: gybes but if you are like me and
: have a different crew many times
: during the summer then the single
: ended pole system is easier to work
: with.
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: Two quick questions as I get #7635
: back in the water in Minnesota after
: replacing the deck (not many
: Fireballs to look at in this area
: for rigging ideas!).
:
: First, twings. I understand the
: general concept based on what is in
: the draycote website, but I still
: don't understand the advantage over
: a simple hook plus a cleat. There
: is a cleat just in front of the
: shroud that allows cleating the
: spinnaker guy - it seems to me that
: this should allow the guy to be
: slack after this point, allowing the
: crew to hike out without getting
: tangled in lines. This is cited as
: the advantage to twings, though, so
: like I said I'm missing something.
:
: Second, pole storage along the boom,
: the aft end. I saw a rigging
: suggestion that proposed using a
: shock cord "track" that
: was fed through a block on the aft
: end of the pole (I will have a
: single-ended setup), and terminated
: on either side of the boom. What I
: see most commonly in photos is the
: use of ring(s) made of cable(?) that
: is capable of holding the pole when
: not in use. Is there a part number?
: Home made? Also, does the crew
: manually guide the pole through the
: ring when storing?
:
: Thanks in advance!
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