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Re: Timing marks, timing, etc.

Posted by JimG on 3/22/2008, 6:22 am, in reply to "Re: Timing marks, timing, etc. "
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Thanks!

I just borrowed another damper, so I can compare it to the one on my engine to see if it looks like it has slipped.

Jim

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:
:
: --Previous Message--
: OK, I thought I was smarter than
: this!
: I need one of you experts to tell me
: what I did wrong.
:
: We bought a running parts car ('63
: Falcon) with a good 170 in it. We
: drove the car for about a month
: before parting it out. I did a
: gasket job on the engine (oil pan,
: rear main oil seal, valve cover,
: timing cover, timing cover seal),
: cleaned the engine, painted it, and
: plopped it over into our '63 Falcon
: project. Of course, I removed the
: distributor to do this.
:
: I set the distributor by turning the
: engine clockwise by hand until I
: began to feel compression on #1
: cylinder. I continued turning the
: engine until the timing mark was at
: about 5 degrees BTDC, I set the
: distributor so the rotor button so
: it pointed to #1, locked the
: distributor down, and hit the key.
: Nothing!
:
: Long story short - I later
: discovered that the timing mark was
: nowhere near 0 when #1 cylinder was
: at TDC (you can see the top of the
: piston when the spark plug is
: removed). I finally made my own mark
: on the damper when #1 piston was at
: TDC, set the timing again using the
: same method described above, and it
: fired right up. I timed the engine
: by ear, checked the timing with a
: timing light, and found my new mark
: at about 8 degrees before TDC.
: Viola!
:
: What gives? Isn't the timing mark on
: the damper supposed to align with
: the TDC mark on the timing cover
: when #1 is at TDC? I wonder if I
: have the wrong damper? Is the Ford 6
: damper made in such a way that the
: outer ring can slip, making the
: timing mark wrong?
:
: Any help is appreciated.
:
: A confused Jim
:
: the outer ring of the damper could
: be slipping,if it is don't run the
: engine until it is replaced.if you
: find that is ok take the dist.cap
: off and move the damper back and
: forth to see how much play there
: is.
:

Message Thread:

Timing marks, timing, etc. - JimG 3/18/2008, 1:08 pm
- Re: Timing marks, timing, etc. - Bob 4/10/2008, 3:48 am
- Re: Timing marks, timing, etc. - dmac 3/20/2008, 8:53 am
  - Re: Timing marks, timing, etc. - JimG 3/22/2008, 6:22 am
    - Re: Timing marks, timing, etc. - dmac 3/22/2008, 10:22 am
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--Previous Message-- : Thanks! : : I just borrowed another damper, so I : can compare it to the one on my : engine to see if it looks like it : has slipped. : : Jim : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : OK, I thought I was smarter than : this! : I need one of you experts to tell me : what I did wrong. : : We bought a running parts car ('63 : Falcon) with a good 170 in it. We : drove the car for about a month : before parting it out. I did a : gasket job on the engine (oil pan, : rear main oil seal, valve cover, : timing cover, timing cover seal), : cleaned the engine, painted it, and : plopped it over into our '63 Falcon : project. Of course, I removed the : distributor to do this. : : I set the distributor by turning the : engine clockwise by hand until I : began to feel compression on #1 : cylinder. I continued turning the : engine until the timing mark was at : about 5 degrees BTDC, I set the : distributor so the rotor button so : it pointed to #1, locked the : distributor down, and hit the key. : Nothing! : : Long story short - I later : discovered that the timing mark was : nowhere near 0 when #1 cylinder was : at TDC (you can see the top of the : piston when the spark plug is : removed). I finally made my own mark : on the damper when #1 piston was at : TDC, set the timing again using the : same method described above, and it : fired right up. I timed the engine : by ear, checked the timing with a : timing light, and found my new mark : at about 8 degrees before TDC. : Viola! : : What gives? Isn't the timing mark on : the damper supposed to align with : the TDC mark on the timing cover : when #1 is at TDC? I wonder if I : have the wrong damper? Is the Ford 6 : damper made in such a way that the : outer ring can slip, making the : timing mark wrong? : : Any help is appreciated. : : A confused Jim : : the outer ring of the damper could : be slipping,if it is don't run the : engine until it is replaced.if you : find that is ok take the dist.cap : off and move the damper back and : forth to see how much play there : is. : : :

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