Posted by Randall/Tim on August 2, 2005, 12:53 am I’ve had a problem with doing this, but I’ve never told anybody about it. It’s never gotten me into any trouble with the law, but if I’m not careful, maybe it could someday. I’ve done things like going to remote beaches that weren’t designated as nude beaches, where there were girls present, and I’ve gone skinny-dipping in front of them. Like, for example, at this public beach near where I live, there’s a big section of remote beach that goes along the shore of the lake, and there are bushes and tall grass, and one time as I was walking along, I came to a clearing where there was sand and there were two girls there, one white with light brown hair, the other mulatto, that is, she looked part black and part white, with gold wire-rimmed glasses. Very beautiful. Both of them had all their clothes on. I said hi as I came by and they said hi back. “This is a nice spot,” I said. “Do you mind if I sunbathe here?” “Oh no, go ahead,” they said. I laid my towel out on the ground and started taking off my clothes, and didn’t stop till I was completely naked in front of them, and lay there in the sun. We carried on a conversation, and while the white girl looked straight ahead and didn’t look at me while we were talking, I noticed the mulatto girl always trying to get in a peek down, acting like she thought she wasn’t supposed to because it was impolite or something, but was trying to anyway—which was all right with me. I thought they looked so young they would have to be in high school, so I asked them, “What school do you go to?” They said, “We’re not in school anymore.” I didn’t feel comfortable asking them how old they were, but I wanted to. Anyway, at least they were old enough to be out of high school, though I thought they barely looked it. So, I just lay there in the sun like that for quite a while as we the conversation went on, as if nothing were unusual. Finally when it was time to go, I got up to leave, I said bye, they said bye, and I went on my way. As I was leaving, I heard the white girl whispering to the other girl, “Oh, I was SO embarrassed!” A little embarrased? Yes. But hurt in any way? I don’t think so. A few hours later I passed them again at another part of the huge park and said hi again, and they said hi back in a quiet, friendly tone of voice as we passed each other. I could never hurt any girl in any way. I love them too much. Oh, but sometimes... sometimes I just can’t control myself from taking off my clothes in front of them. To me sometimes the way it hits me is like, if you were standing somewhere in a desert in the hot sun, just dying of thirst and there was this ice-cold glass of lemonade there, and you weren’t supposed to drink it, but you just couldn’t control yourself from picking it up and gulping it down anyway. That’s the way it feels to me sometimes when I come in contact with kind, pretty girls I like, and there’s a situation like that where I could... let them see mee.... Mmmmm! I know I need help. But dang, it feels so good when I do! Well, has anybody been in that kind of situation before? Did it lead to any serious problems for you later in life or for anyone else? John Randall _________________________ _________________________ I’ve done that before, that is, I’ve taken that approach to resolving the situation, to let off steam when I have to. First, after getting arrested, I went through treatment, and with practice, learned how to tone down, to a degree, the attraction to it, but that didn’t wipe it out completely. Every once in a while, a little something would well up inside, the desire to be with a girl, to have eye contact, and... yeah, “feeling whimsical,” as they call it. I also found that there are beaches that have remote parts to them where girls sometimes go to swim or sunbathe, and even if it isn’t legally designated as a nude beach (they’re still far too few and far-between), if you can figure out correctly which girls are which kind, those who accept it and those who don’t, and you’re discreet and ask their permission first, and if they say it’s all right, then you’re in the clear. Grith. From there on, even if the law somehow becomes involved—even though there may be a legal technicality due to the fact that you’re on public property in public view, and the law requires the wearing of “clothing or adequate swimming apparel”—when it comes right down to it, when you’re standing before a judge, the fact that you asked their permission first and they gave it to you will always be a very powerful bargaining chip in court. All you have to have done when you were there, before you undressed, was to have said something like, “Do you mind if I go skinny-dipping?” or “Is it all right if I sunbathe nude here?” or something. Judges are capable of taking into consideration ethics in human relations over technicalities of law—the mere fact that it was prohibited because it was on public property. They do sometimes. Often, in fact. And for that matter, forget the judge. Let’s start with the policeman doing the arresting. They can often be reasoned with too. They can also be capable of understanding ethics in human relations over technicalities of law. If you were suddenly confronted by surprise by a policeman in a situation like that, and you explained to him, “Yes, officer, but I asked her permission first, and she said it was all right,” and he turned to her and says, “Is that true?” and she answers yes, you may very well end up with the policeman just saying, “Well, it isn’t permitted to be nude here. You’ll have to get your clothes on," and leave it at that. Police may be different in different areas. In some areas you may still get a ticket, in some areas, you may even still be taken to jail. It depends on the area and sometimes it depends on the individual policemen—and if it gets as far as jail, then you still have the judge’s reasoning that may yet let you off. The permission-first thing, it really does wonders at protecting your legal situation. One important thing that accompanies it, though: whenever you hit a case where she says no, that it WOULD bother her, you have to make damn sure you respect that, no matter how much you want to do it anyway. You can’t. After you’ve asked her permission and she’s said no, to still do it anyway... my! That would really be out of context. That’s a sex offense, not to mention how it could anger and/or frighten the girl. The court-appointed therapists would never go along with this idea. If they knew you were doing that, they’d make the recommendation to the judge that you were not cured and you need more of their expensive court-enforced therapy sessions. But to heck with that. Some of us—as well as, yes, a wide percentage of the people—believe that if it can be contained to nothing more than that, then that’s all right. Better that than for it to go out of control into something blatant in public. Tim
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This is crazy, a message board like this
Posted by Randall on November 27, 2000, 3:56 pm
It’s scary to put a message on here, because what if somebody found out my identity and it got publicized or something? Oh well, I’m going to risk it anyway.
[Board administrator’s note: there was originally a message here titled “There’s nothing wrong with nude sunbathing,” posted by a “Terry,” but the body of the text was later found to be missing, with the title still up. What caused it to disappear is not known.]
I always ask their permission first
Posted by Tim on December 14, 2000, 1:37 pm
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