Posted by Robert I also was "indoctrinated" in the Christian faith. It is important not to throw out the baby with the bathwater because there is some truth in the Christian religion. Concepts like self acceptance, non-judgment, love, reconciliation are all based in truth. However, the basic premise and dogmas of the religion are dualistic and ultimately destructive....even self abusive. This is why many Christians in our culture seem to be full of hate and judgment. (ever watch Jerry Falwell or any of the preachers on TV rant like lunatics?) They are taught and conditioned to hate themselves. They then project their self rejection and self hate outwardly. The religion divides reality into Good/Evil and is exclusive in nature. "If you do not believe, you will rot in hell..and our loving god will reject you". True Spirituality is inclusive of ALL. This means that every Being no matter how low on the scale you judge them, has intrinsic worth and value. The religion lacks logic, reason, and a basis in history. Deep research reveals the true roots of Christianity. It is just another iteration of the ancient Mesopotamian mystery religions. Consciousness at that level is dualistic and is divided between "us and them." Yet the literal believers in Christianity are stuck at a rudimentary level of awareness where they are dependent on forces outside them for a sense of worth and self love...ie...an external savior god. In my opinion...self hate and rejection (suppression) are THE ROOT CAUSE of all the dysfunction we are experiencing in our world. After my many years in Christianity, I could not maintain intellectual and emotional honesty. I saw it for the lie that it was. From there I had to acknowledge and take ownership of the deep dysfunctional belief system that had accrued in my psyche. Upon embarking on clearing work...to my horror I discovered deep feelings of hate that had built up inside me towards God. First I rejected these feelings as taboo and avoided them tooth and nail. In doing so..I was rejecting my Self.I had become caught in a catch 22. "If I acknowledge my feelings of hate towards God...God will reject me and throw me into hell." Once I got beyond this..accepted and owned and deeply felt and released my feelings of hate towards God, my beliefs changed. It was not easy. I am still working on it. However, I feel like I have truly been born anew in the truest sense. --Previous Message--
on 1/26/2007, 10:27 am, in reply to "Re: Christian Faith"
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I would like to introject some of my thoughts here. First...it is an illusion to believe that you can change another person's belief system...no matter how much pain or how self destructive the other person is being. It is deeply painful to witness a loved one self destruct. Much of the desire to change another person has its basis in projection. ie...you reject the painful feelings that you feel watching your loved one self destruct...so you compulsively try to change them. When this does not work...you become more frustrated...adding to your own pain. When you get to a point where you become conscious of your projection and subsequent self rejection, you can withdraw the projection and turn within to feel the feelings that are the root cause of the projection. The compulsivity to change the other clears on its own. I have even experienced that upon clearing projections....the outer situation (your loved one's self destructive behavior) begins to take care of itself..without any interference or "help" from us. This type of projection dynamic is a symptom of what is labeled "co-dependency."
: Hi,
: Thank you for your thoughts.
: Actually, no, I do not feel
: obligated to get her out of this.
: For one reason is that I have
: traveled another path and live
: outside of the country. I have
: mentioned this point in a e-mail to
: her and she did not respond so I
: believe she will have to work it out
: for herself.
:
: Tony
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