Posted by Denise. on November 10, 2009, 4:19 pm, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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Well, I find it difficult with Cinderella. She is sweet and nice, but thatīs all. She does not have a dark side like some others. Most of the other Disney princesses and heroines persue their dreams to their maximun consequences, Ariel goes for the prince, no matter what. Belle and Mulan sacrificed themselves to save their fathers, Snow White, starts a new life with those dwarfs, Jasmine defies the marrying law... Most of Disney princesses and heroines have strong personalities. Cinderella just cries and cries... I do not like her attitude. Those step sisters deserve a slap on the face... lol. --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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Posted by Julia on November 9, 2009, 9:39 am, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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I thought you were going to mention Jasmine's angry attitude when it comes to suitors and being lied which is a peeve to her. And because the Aladdin script was written by the same Pirates of the Caribbean screenwriters, I do see Elizabeth Swann like that but worse. --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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Posted by Elly on November 8, 2009, 1:49 am, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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I love all the Disney characters but not all of them are perfect. I think Disney does teach children very important values with their movies. I don't like the fact they ban some characters or change them because people have issues with them. I mean get over it they are just animated characters. Anyways, everyone makes an good point and thanks for sharing! Elly --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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Posted by Jennie on November 7, 2009, 12:04 pm, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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well I sometimes think Meg looks a bit too old for Herc... but I still love her. also in case you didnt see my prior post- WELCOME BACK! --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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Posted by neko on November 7, 2009, 10:58 am, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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I don't think that hard about animated characters. I may dislike a certain character/relationship and of course I have a favorite, but to me, it's just a good, happy movie that I can enjoy any time.

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Posted by Shiera on November 7, 2009, 10:28 am, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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Well, we already have an idealized image of that area in which they come from already thinking of it as being - as you put it - "exotic and faraway" which is very much a modern thing, so adding modern jokes to an already kind of modern Bollywood movie wasn't that far of a stretch. It's more like adding sprinkles to cupcakes. It's already sweet, just make it sweeter. And I'm not sure how Jasmine was able to control Aladdin with sex appeal alone when the first time they met, it was based on relatability to each other and a connection they both shared knowing they had similar wants in life, but that's your assessment to hold on to and not for me to change . I'm not sure I follow you on Jane either, but eh. But I've tried to eliminate dislikes of characters from my mentality and try to find something I like about all of them. The only one I pretty much loathe, though, is Tinker Bell MAINLY because of her marketing and how absolutely snobby and bratty they make her. She wasn't anything nice in Peter Pan, granted, but she wasn't this bad. Disney is trying to reverse her image by making her look nicer in those Tinker Bell movies, but it's a little late for that. --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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Posted by crazymissdaisy on November 7, 2009, 9:56 am, in reply to "Love/ hate &/ or difficult relationships with animated Disney characters? "
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you think to much ^^ For me Jasmine allways been the strong independant heroine, that was just as able to kick butt as the hero. the rebel, the one that didnt just follow sociaty. despite having bad selfasteme myself, I never had a difficult relationship with the disney princesses. I allways saw them as rolemodels, good healthy rolemodels. I never looked to much at their apperance because; hey their drawings. Their waist is smaller than their head, and their eyes are enourmes --Previous Message-- : Dear Disney Doll Fans, : : Do you have any love/ hate and/ or difficult : relationships with certain animated Disney : characters? : : I certainly have some tortured mental : associations, with regards to both Jasmine : and Tarzan's Jane. Why, you ask? : : Well, I'll give you the PG-rated version of : my mental frustrations. The entire Disney : version of "Aladdin" always bugged : me, because, in my personal opinion, what : could have been a romantic, exotic, faraway : type of movie was spoiled by modern jokes, : etc. I love Robin Williams, but : "Aladdin" 's general mood has : always seemed to be a combination of oranges : and peppermints, which obviously don't go : together; in other words, the old-fashioned : exoticism of the setting is spoiled by the : tanginess of modernity. : : I've always sort of disliked Jasmine, too. : I saw "Aladdin" when I was 13, and : I always viewed Jasmine as the impossibly : sex symbol whom every single woman in the : world should have to be like. I hated her : for being that, because I'd never be able to : be that perfect; I was also upset because : Jasmine was able to perfectly control : Aladdin with sex appeal alone! That red : slave scene always stuck with me. I felt as : though society expected me to live up to all : of that, and that I could never be that : sexy. I also began to believe that : darker-complected women were sexier than : fair-complected women. : : I was probably being immature and overly : sensitive at the time, but my feelings about : that movie, and about Jasmine's image, have : always been with me. : : Of course, I now realize that Aladdin is : that perpetual frat boy, who is maddeningly : persuasive, and yet totally fratolicious, if : you know what I mean! LOL! : : The other Disney character whom I've always : had a tough time reckoning with is Jane : Porter. I like her, 'cause she's actually : an intelligent, sweet gal, who speaks with a : cool accent, but I've always felt that her : character represents bedroom-minded, primal : young women, and that's always upset me. My : interpretation of a certain : "Tarzan" song didn't help, either. : : I can never seem to disassociate some of : those perfect, animated Disney heroines from : the stereotypes that society seems to emit. : : Thanks in advance for your replies. : : : :

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