Posted by James on December 16, 2003, 11:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Northern Electric Switch/Ringer problem" Someone seems to have connected a wire from Battery Terminal E(?) to the last COND. When that is removed the receiver sound is fine but the phone still doesn't work properly. Naturally, I only want to use this as an extension and I really don't want to ruin it or hurt my phone line. If it can't be done then, so be it I'll use it as a decoration, but since I do get a dial tone and sound from it I tend to think it is not an impossible task. I certainly appreciate any help you can give and if you know a repairer, I'd be glad to hear of him. Thanks again --Previous Message--
Thanks for your response. My phone seems to be the Oak Northern Electric version of the Western Electric No. 317 perhaps the "B" and the schematic says "N1317A, N1317E, N1317F and N1317G tel sets" at the bottom of it. My guess it is from the late teens or early 20's and it has an outside ringer and a crank. No Dial of course. Three internal batteries for the ringer (currently not set up).
: First you need to clarify what kind of phone
: you have. Sounds like a dial set (not really
: an antique by most standards, but ---) If
: your phone has an internal bell and you
: connected the two wires from the bell
: directly to the incoming phone line, you
: might get just such a problem as described.
: Bells must be isolated from the DC which
: controls dialing and powers the microphone by
: inserting a capacitor in series with the bell
: circuit. That lets the AC of the ringing
: signal pass through to the ringer, but blocks
: the DC which is used by the dial and the
: transmitter (microphone)
:
: Low receiver can be from many problems, the
: first (if this is a phone from the 50's or
: later, is the small Diode or varistor on the
: back of the receiver can be bad (remove). If
: this is an older set with separate ear piece
: (receiver) and transmitter (mike) usually is
: due to improper wiring or in some cases weak
: magnets in the receiver.
: Again, hate to be so non-specific, but not
: knowing what particular phone you are using
: makes the diagnostics difficult.
: Keith
: --Previous Message--
: I am new to antique phones so please bear
: with
: me.
: When I purchased my phone (a Northern
: Electric magneto wood wall phone) I noticed
: the ringer wires were not connected and the
: switchhook worked fine.
: When the ringer wires are again connected
: however, the switchhook "dials" a
: number which "cannot be completed as
: dialed" and also it cannot be hung up
: or disconnected. When the wires to the
: ringer are again disconnected, the switchhook
: works normally. Does anyone know how to fix
: this? I am an antique phonograph colector
: who is mystified by wires and really don't
: know what to do.
: Thanks for ANY help or tips or advice you can
: give.
: James
: PS Also, why is the receiver SO low?
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